I have a Schimmwagen and a Nebelwerfer that both have resin tires to be painted.
Instead of just using a single coat of flat black, what could I use instead to make them as realistic as possible?
Thanks for any suggestions!!
~ Jeff
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what color/paint used for tires?

PantherF

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 05:07 AM UTC

Belt_Fed

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 05:36 AM UTC
I very seldom use anything other than Vallejo Model Color Black Grey. You could also play around with your own mixings- start with black, add a few drops dark reddish brown, maybe some light tan, then some drops of dark grey. Really its just a matter of playing around with colors until you find something that makes you happy. Be sure to share it with us 

Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 06:35 AM UTC
I like the Vallejo Drak Rubber, sometimes with a drop of dark red brown and/or black.
Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 07:44 AM UTC
I prefer Tamiya NATO black
casualmodeler

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 07:45 AM UTC
Try black and then add grey, make test and add more grey until you are satisfied..
Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 08:19 AM UTC
I like Floquil "Weathered Black". It brushes really well, sprays well and dries hard very, very quickly.
Weather & wash & you're good to go.
Paul
Weather & wash & you're good to go.
Paul

Tojo72

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 09:56 AM UTC
I like Tamiya XF-63 German Gray mixed with flat back,then weather with pigments
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 10:08 AM UTC
I've used PollyScale railroad oily black, mixed with some gray, or NATO black.

PantherF

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 10:11 AM UTC
WOW!! Thanks guys! I'll have to try a few and let you know. Both are in 1/16 and I want to paint them at the same time.
~ Jeff

~ Jeff
Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 10:41 AM UTC
Hi Jeff,
Real rubber is tricky stuff, not quite black, and it looks different where it rubs the ground. The theme emerging from the responses here is to use a base coat of a dark grey colour rather than black. I usually then add a wash of a "dirt" colour (to settle in the treads and around details like lettering) before giving a light dry-brushing of pure black along the treads and wheel faces to pick out any edges etc. Here's how they can turn out:


Hope this helps!
Tom
Real rubber is tricky stuff, not quite black, and it looks different where it rubs the ground. The theme emerging from the responses here is to use a base coat of a dark grey colour rather than black. I usually then add a wash of a "dirt" colour (to settle in the treads and around details like lettering) before giving a light dry-brushing of pure black along the treads and wheel faces to pick out any edges etc. Here's how they can turn out:


Hope this helps!
Tom

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 10:55 AM UTC
as a base, i like to use model masters aircraft Int. black then apply filters and pigments as needed

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 11:47 AM UTC
Hello!
I use Gunze Tire Black, or Tamiya Nato Black if I don't have the Gunze...
I use Gunze Tire Black, or Tamiya Nato Black if I don't have the Gunze...

PantherF

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 12:19 PM UTC
That Tamiya Nato Black has been mentioned twice now, so I'll start there and work around it and see what "I" come up with. This should be fun.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
~ Jeff
Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
~ Jeff

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 12:44 PM UTC
Jeff,If you look in the painting forum about the third page in you will find a "weathering for tires"thread started by myself when I had to do 18 tires for a M-25.There was a reply by Mig Jimenez giving a link to a step by step walk through by Him.It really helped me out.Tires where a first for me,and I was totally lost.I wanted my tires to be really muddied up so they are pretty dirty but you will get the idea.Here are some pics,
There you go hope it helps,my names Jeff too


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imatanker

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 12:51 PM UTC
Oops,heres the pic that was supposed to be in the above post
Jeff

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 02:52 PM UTC
I think Tamiya NATO black by itself is a bit light....I prefer a 50/50 mix of NATO and Flat Black
Rounds Complete!!
Rounds Complete!!

PantherF

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 04:03 PM UTC
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Jeff,If you look in the painting forum about the third page in you will find a "weathering for tires"thread started by myself when I had to do 18 tires for a M-25.
I will check it out and redleg12, I am going to the hobby store and will try this as well.
Thanks guys!
~ Jeff

brentwal

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2011 - 04:19 PM UTC
I hardly ever use the same color twice.
Any dark grey - black, based on subject and mood.
Any dark grey - black, based on subject and mood.
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