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LittleNick
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 02:29 PM UTC
i just started modeling and i was wondering if there was a way i could make accurate looking weathering without aribrushes. i know you can use dry brushing but all the article i have seen you have to ues an airbrush.
TreadHead
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 02:50 PM UTC
Howdy LittleNick,
Welcome to the site! First off, precisely what kind of 'weathering' are U talking about? If you're talking about washes, there are done with a brush. If you're talking about 'wear & tear' type of weathering, that can be done with a brush as well.....however, the majority of 'weathering' is accomplished most accurately with the use of an AB.
But don't despair, I'm sure there are those on this site that use a brush for their weathering techniques. With any luck, they'll 'pipe' in!
Tread.
It's just hard to 'mist' on anything with a brush.
Welcome to the site! First off, precisely what kind of 'weathering' are U talking about? If you're talking about washes, there are done with a brush. If you're talking about 'wear & tear' type of weathering, that can be done with a brush as well.....however, the majority of 'weathering' is accomplished most accurately with the use of an AB.
But don't despair, I'm sure there are those on this site that use a brush for their weathering techniques. With any luck, they'll 'pipe' in!
Tread.
It's just hard to 'mist' on anything with a brush.
warthog
Metro Manila, Philippines
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 04:13 PM UTC
LittleNick: Yes, you can produce accurate weathering w/o using an airbrush. I normally do my weathering using a brush. The links below could probably help....
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/helpdesk.asp#tech_tips
The link above contains several articles regarding painting and weathering that is very useful. I suggest you browse the whole site.
The ARMOR features in Armorama also contains several articles about weathering.
There are actually so many sources of information in the internet about AFV weathering. The link above is just one of them.
Hope this helps
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/helpdesk.asp#tech_tips
The link above contains several articles regarding painting and weathering that is very useful. I suggest you browse the whole site.
The ARMOR features in Armorama also contains several articles about weathering.
There are actually so many sources of information in the internet about AFV weathering. The link above is just one of them.
Hope this helps
Major_Goose
Kikladhes, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 05:40 PM UTC
You can do the washing , and the dry brush techniques with a brush ( i mean many of them)
and with faboulous results . With brushes i also use pastels and fine chalk dust or pencil lead scrathes, and all kind of stuff for a decent weathering. For this effect also you have to know that "little improves easily but too much very difficult" means go one step at a time little by little see how it looks leave to dry and then add again until you re satisfied.Especially 1/35 vehicles and tanks deserve a decent weathering of many different kind cause every part of the vehicle has different kind and grade of aging through the heavy use. Before u start check out relevant articles here and also book info , get a list of techniques and start with what seems to u easy and comfort to do .see how it goes and then use something more difficult.
I have to say that until i did my first good looking weathered vehicle it took me hundreds of hours experimenting. and of course you re never done.
digg in and everybody is here to help
and with faboulous results . With brushes i also use pastels and fine chalk dust or pencil lead scrathes, and all kind of stuff for a decent weathering. For this effect also you have to know that "little improves easily but too much very difficult" means go one step at a time little by little see how it looks leave to dry and then add again until you re satisfied.Especially 1/35 vehicles and tanks deserve a decent weathering of many different kind cause every part of the vehicle has different kind and grade of aging through the heavy use. Before u start check out relevant articles here and also book info , get a list of techniques and start with what seems to u easy and comfort to do .see how it goes and then use something more difficult.
I have to say that until i did my first good looking weathered vehicle it took me hundreds of hours experimenting. and of course you re never done.
digg in and everybody is here to help
warthog
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 08:45 PM UTC
Little Nick: You can look at my gallery, I have two AFVs that were weathered using brush....just click the my gallery button below......
Major_Goose
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 09:13 PM UTC
i d also like to add that i ve achieved some beautiful effects of smoking with an airbrush for smoked gun barrels, or exhaust pipes, but i va also achieved this holding the piece far enough from the flame of smoking candle .it's your decision but generally in weathering you show your talent cause you can do almost anything there ..
steve203
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 05:01 AM UTC
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 05:37 AM UTC
I rarely use the AB for weathering. Washes and drybrusing are done with regular brushes and pastels can be applied with a brush, a Q-Tip or even your fingers, depending on what you are trying to achieve.
Augie
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 06:51 AM UTC
Personally, the only thing I really use my airbrush for is the general painting of larger parts of my models and an initial coat for camoflage. I also use one for putting my Future coat over the paint. For everything else I use brushes, especially for details and smaller pieces.
Neill
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 03:02 PM UTC
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i just started modeling and i was wondering if there was a way i could make accurate looking weathering without aribrushes.
Sure can… all of my weathering is done with dry brushing, washes and pencil/pastels…
…Frankly a decided lack of skill with the airbrush has kept me using the same technique for years.
Good luck!
John
www.johnneill.com