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Knocked out PAK40 , How?
6stringer
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:33 AM UTC
Is it possible to , and if so , how , do you turn a peice of armour , whether it be a tank , jeep , staff car or in my case a German PAK40/L46 gun into a knocked out , smouldering wreck?
Do you build it first then mess it up? or do you inflict the damage as your building it?
I have built mine but now I want to utilise it in my next dio as a roadside knock out as the US arny advances..
Can I use a form of heat to carefully bend the damage into shape?..
any thoughts or tips would be grateful..
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:39 AM UTC
That depends how it was knocked out. Was the crew killed, this could be just bullet splash hits on the gun shield. If there was an artillery strike nearby, there could be some damage to the barrel and shields. If it was a direct hit from a tank firing back at it, there would be the usual hole whetre the round hit, and possibly effects from stored ammo going off. I would think there would be shield damage, with lesser gun tube / trails being bent.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:44 AM UTC
I Googled "Kocked out anti tank gun" in Images and found some good reference shots.

One thing I noticed is that a knocked out ATG doesn't really get all that damaged. I guess in most cases the crew are attacked more so than the gun?

In most cases a wheel or both are knocked off and the gunshield gets knocked about a bit. I reckon I'd remove one wheel, to give it the unbalanced look and maybe cut some pieces out of the gun shield to look like torn metal ? Maybe a bullet hole or two for which a heated pin/nail works well.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:48 AM UTC
Some inspiring pics :







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HTH

Frenchy



Magpie
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:58 AM UTC
Are the second and third shots of guns that have been spiked and the breeches blown off, particularly the last one with the cartridge in the barrel?
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 03:05 AM UTC
I was thinking the same about picture #3...Maybe the cartridge has been put there by the photographer

Frenchy
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