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Thinning Vallejo surface primer?
BBD468
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2011 - 04:12 PM UTC
Hi All,

i tried the vallejo acrylic-polyurethane gray primer. i was i found that it didnt spray as good as advertised in my opinion. i tried low pressure, high pressure and and just didnt seem right. it does level out nicely and is very durable. i like that. but i would like to thin it some. it seems too thick and it was near impossible to clean out my airbrush. does vallejo make a specific thinner? or is there an alternative i can try? ive tried water, tamiya laquer thinner and kleen strip laquer thinner none seemed to work as good as i hoped and none cleaned my airbrush properly either. i usually use tamiya gray in my airbrush but im out. i may just be spoiled to tamiya. Thanks for any replies.

Gary
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2011 - 04:24 PM UTC
I've used windex to thin Vallejo model air paints before. Just like you, I've found that they don't spray as well and I've seen others on this site saying the same thing. I've stopped using them for the most part and have just stuck with thinned tamiya.
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2011 - 04:34 PM UTC
Guys,
Tamiya is an alcohol based acrylic and Vallejo is a water based acrylic. What works with Tamiya will just glob up Vallejo.
Vallejo primers are the best on the market in my experience. You can thin it with Vallejo thinner, distilled water, or Liquitex Flo-Aid (works great!). Same with the Model Air paints, a few drops of Flo-Aid if you need to and they are excellent paints. You can also slow down drying time and prevent clogging with Liquitex Slo-Dri.
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2011 - 05:16 PM UTC
Gary...what Matt said

Personally, I find that 1-2 drops of distilled water per 4ml of Vallejo primer makes all the difference in the world. If there is a lot of brass to be painted, I give it a light mist coat first, let it set for a minute or so and follow with another light coat.

For cleaning, I love the Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner, cut it half and half with distilled water for color changes and use full strength for final cleaning. Get the big bottle (200ml?) with the squirt top as it's easier to control the amount (don't need a lot to clean). I also like Medea Airbrush cleaner (quart bottle is pretty cheap) for general cleaning and using in an ultrasonic cleaner.
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2011 - 05:37 PM UTC
Hi All,

thx for the qwik responce. seem like i need to play some more with it. Matthew, where can i get the liquitex-flo aid? my options are hobby lobby, and hobby town usa. Thx.

Gary
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2011 - 06:16 PM UTC
Hobby Lobby in the art section, acrylics aisle. Liquitex sells a large line of acrylic products useful for our hobby. Also any Michaels Crafts or similar chain will have it.
I forgot to mention the cleaning products - I use the exact same as James.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 01:31 AM UTC
HI matthew,

Thanks for the info man! got a hobby lobby about a mile from home. ill give it a try.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 06:10 AM UTC
You're welcome Gary, glad to help.
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