Well i thought i would be concise in the title!
i am building this new Panda Hobby's MRAP M-ATV - Very nice btw - and wanted to get the colour right as i could - i have a few different paints i can choose from but do you guys think its a "desert Tan" 33446 or a "Sand" 33711 colour ?
Basically i want the best match - i am leaning towards a Tamiya Acrylic XF-78 wooden deck tan with XF 55 deck tan as the light colour?
Whaddya think?
thanks for any help guys
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Colour for MRAP US Afghanistan vehicles?
Ads_for_short
Joined: December 25, 2008
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2011 - 01:12 PM UTC
stephane
Joined: October 10, 2005
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2011 - 09:53 PM UTC
Hi
Some US service guys will give you more accurate statements but the vehicles i saw in a military show (including a M-ATAV) were in an "orange" desert sand.
I'm building a US vehicle but i haven't yet choose the colour so i can't help you more.
Stephane
Some US service guys will give you more accurate statements but the vehicles i saw in a military show (including a M-ATAV) were in an "orange" desert sand.
I'm building a US vehicle but i haven't yet choose the colour so i can't help you more.
Stephane
HeavyArty
Joined: May 16, 2002
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2011 - 11:22 PM UTC
The closest model color match to modern CARC Middlestone is Testors Model Master Sand (FS33531). Once weathered, it looks really good.
Hisham
Joined: July 23, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 04:11 AM UTC
How about the Tamiya acrylic paints.. which are the easiest for me to get here.. any suggestions as to which color (or mixture) would be the best to use?
Hisham
Hisham
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 06:30 AM UTC
Sorry, can't help you with Tamiya paints, I use Testors Model Master paints exclusively. I have heard there is no out of the bottle close color from Tamiya though. You will have to mix a couple colors to get close.
Ads_for_short
Joined: December 25, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 08:25 AM UTC
Thanks for the tip on the Testors - i have ordered some
Do you have any good tips while using it and for airbrushing - as i haven't used it before
Also if anyone knows any other paint matches for different systems?
Tanks for your help up till now
Do you have any good tips while using it and for airbrushing - as i haven't used it before
Also if anyone knows any other paint matches for different systems?
Tanks for your help up till now
HeavyArty
Joined: May 16, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 08:52 AM UTC
For airbrushing Testors MM enamels, I use lacquer thinner to thin it down. It should be about the consistency of milk. Spray using about 20-30 psi and you should be good. I really like the way their enamels go on.
Redprol
Joined: August 10, 2011
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 09:27 AM UTC
Hi Adam,
Ive been hunting this kit in the UK, where did you get it?
Redprol
Ive been hunting this kit in the UK, where did you get it?
Redprol
mother
Joined: January 29, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 09:37 AM UTC
I use the Tamiyas acrylic paints, I wish I could use the Testors MM enamels. However without a spray booth I can keep spraying the enamels.
So I had to find a mix...so here's what I came up with. I mix Tamiyas Buff XF-57 and Tamiyas Deck Tan XF-55, something like 60% deck tan to 40% buff. Sometimes I'll mix in a little Tamiya flat white.
How I found this was I downloaded the "IModelKit" app. It's a great app at that. It has many features such as paint mixer, simply pull up the paint brand and colors, then mix. Not only easy to use there are other features such as FS colors and numbers.
Happy Modeling,
Joe
So I had to find a mix...so here's what I came up with. I mix Tamiyas Buff XF-57 and Tamiyas Deck Tan XF-55, something like 60% deck tan to 40% buff. Sometimes I'll mix in a little Tamiya flat white.
How I found this was I downloaded the "IModelKit" app. It's a great app at that. It has many features such as paint mixer, simply pull up the paint brand and colors, then mix. Not only easy to use there are other features such as FS colors and numbers.
Happy Modeling,
Joe
Ads_for_short
Joined: December 25, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 09:41 AM UTC
well its shipping so far from two places i know about
Pacific Coast Models in the U.S. and you can also get it in Europe from AVAX models the Czech Republic
i think they are shipping now
i got mine to build - i am glad i got this one the detail is very nice
It should be shipping this week - just email them
hth fella
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Pacific Coast Models in the U.S. and you can also get it in Europe from AVAX models the Czech Republic
i think they are shipping now
i got mine to build - i am glad i got this one the detail is very nice
It should be shipping this week - just email them
hth fella
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MacTrucks
Joined: November 12, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 10:06 AM UTC
I almost didn't believe there was such an app for the iPhone. Not that it helps me, an Android user, but it sure sounds interesting.
Hisham
Joined: July 23, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 10:15 AM UTC
If anyone's interested, the Panda kit will also be shipping from Hobbyeasy in HK on the 4th
http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9pixno8zh2zaaibor39j.html
Joe.. thanks for the info regarding the Tamiya paints.
Hisham
http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9pixno8zh2zaaibor39j.html
Joe.. thanks for the info regarding the Tamiya paints.
Hisham
TacticalSquirrel
Joined: May 12, 2010
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 05:35 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I use the Tamiyas acrylic paints, I wish I could use the Testors MM enamels. However without a spray booth I can keep spraying the enamels.
So I had to find a mix...so here's what I came up with. I mix Tamiyas Buff XF-57 and Tamiyas Deck Tan XF-55, something like 60% deck tan to 40% buff. Sometimes I'll mix in a little Tamiya flat white.
How I found this was I downloaded the "IModelKit" app. It's a great app at that. It has many features such as paint mixer, simply pull up the paint brand and colors, then mix. Not only easy to use there are other features such as FS colors and numbers.
Happy Modeling,
Joe
Thanks for mentioning iModelkit, I'll be downloading it to my iPad tonight. Now if only they would make a Droid version.
As to the original question, I have a Surefire light that I sprayed with the touch up cans we used for our trucks in Afghanistan that I can post up as a color swatch if you like, but honestly I think that the Testors is great, and those Tamiya mixing colors are as close as you need. You really don't see much color variation on these vehicles, even with sun bleaching.
Steve
Redprol
Joined: August 10, 2011
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 08:45 AM UTC
Adam,
Thanks one is winging its way to me now.
Redprol
Thanks one is winging its way to me now.
Redprol
Ads_for_short
Joined: December 25, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 01:01 PM UTC
Hey mate sorry i couldn't help more - it looks a better kit to me than the Kinetic which is on its way and less expensive than the Resin one for 195$
Hope you like it - i did!
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Hope you like it - i did!
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Belt_Fed
Joined: February 02, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 01:34 PM UTC
Vallejo Model Color Iraqui Sand is the way to go
CaptnTommy
Joined: October 26, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:37 PM UTC
I believe these MRAP-ATVs are made by Oshkosh in Wisconson USA. Look them up on the web, Call and ask for Public Relations Say you are a model builder making a model of their ATV and ask for the color.
1. If they can't answer the question, ask for the company archives, tell them the same thing. Ask the Questions be friendly. The local IPMS will probably have the information.
I belong to the I.I. Sikorsky Historical Archives, and the local IPMS, so if you need some Blackhawk colors let me know.
Captn Tommy
1. If they can't answer the question, ask for the company archives, tell them the same thing. Ask the Questions be friendly. The local IPMS will probably have the information.
I belong to the I.I. Sikorsky Historical Archives, and the local IPMS, so if you need some Blackhawk colors let me know.
Captn Tommy
chnoone
Joined: January 01, 2009
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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2011 - 02:31 AM UTC
Heh Guys !
Seeing all kinds of MRAPs everyday over here their base color is more of a Tan like
XF59 Desert Yellow
a little "lighting" up with some XF60 Dark Yellow perhaps.
But the base tone is more into a brown than into a sand/yellow tone
most other vehicules here have the usual "sand/yellow" CARC tone
as in Iraq
hope this helps
Cheers
Christopher
Seeing all kinds of MRAPs everyday over here their base color is more of a Tan like
XF59 Desert Yellow
a little "lighting" up with some XF60 Dark Yellow perhaps.
But the base tone is more into a brown than into a sand/yellow tone
most other vehicules here have the usual "sand/yellow" CARC tone
as in Iraq
hope this helps
Cheers
Christopher
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