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Model Master vs. Humbrol (enamels)?
GALILEO1
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 08:21 AM UTC
Just curious as to which one of the two is better in terms of quality. I'm needing to use some enamel paints for a weathering step on a project I'm working so, as mentioned, I was wondering which brand I should go for.

Any and all feedback very much appreciated.

Rob
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 01:22 PM UTC
Hej Rob. I´d vouch for Humbrols everytime. Great to paint with, but also work perfectly for washes ... the pigment is fine, but choice of thinner is crucial. I use Humbrol´s own enamel thinner. Ive had very little experience with Model master enamels. I had rust and tyre-black colours bottles but the tyre colour took forver to dry and both solidified in their jars. Never bought any more of them after that.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 02:30 PM UTC
Rob;

I really liked Humbrol enamels - back 35 years ago when they came in tiny paint-tins! As I remember it, they worked very well both from the AB and via good brushes - and, yes, I seem to recall that the stuff was rather sensitive about the thinners (so, as Frank indicates such to be the case now, maybe some things don't change!). I still have some of my old Humbrols - they take a heck of a lot of stirring and shaking to get going, but still work (and you do NOT want to hear the long story of their dismal life in storage, etc...!).

All that said, I use the ModelMaster enamels now-a-days - maybe in part because I can get them at the LHS. But they ARE good, and work quite nicely from the AB, and in some cases / colors quite well via brush. They do need good mixing, and I have found some to go on a bit too shiny - needing a little flat follow-up. The MM stuff does not seem to be exceptionally sensitive to thinner types and brands, in my limited experience. I have no local source for Humbrols, so can't speak to how current products work.

Cheers!

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 04:24 PM UTC
hello Rod

I use Model Master Enamals paints mostly. And I find their quality to be top notch. They are great for airbrushing and sometimes you can get a color that seems a little thin for brush painting. One of the greatest advantages of Model Masters is their large line of colors.

I did throw out a bottle of gun metal last month that had kinda got junky and could not get it to remix, but I think that might have been because I bought that bottle around 1990.

I have quite a few Humbrol tins as well most of them older stock but some newer. I find they run a little thicker than Model Master and I tend to use them for brush painting small details. When I airbrush them I thin them with the model master thinner and have never had a problem with em.

I'll vouch for both as being good brands, but for brush work I'd lean towards the Humbrol every time.

Delbert

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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 06:36 PM UTC
I'm with Delbert. Humbrol is the best paint for brush work ! Cheaper too than MM !
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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 08:39 AM UTC
Thanks for the great feedback, everyone! Although I didn't mention it in the OP, I will indeed be using a brush with the enamel brand I end up getting. And, if I understand you all correctly, Humbrol is the way to go for this. What I'm trying to do with enamels requires some finesse so I need a good brush-able paint.

Thanks again!

Rob

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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 12:33 PM UTC

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What I'm trying to do with enamels requires some finesse so I need a good brush-able paint.


Also note Rob that Humbrols work really well with oils mixed in if you intend to use them with figures. This prolongs the drying time somewhat and also feathering between shades. Gives you the advantages of oils but the drying time of enamels. Humbrols also dry matt, and the more you thin and mix them, the flatter they dry. Ive heard this the opposite with Vallejo and a lot of the modern "trendy" paint choices.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 03:00 PM UTC

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Also note Rob that Humbrols work really well with oils mixed in if you intend to use them with figures. This prolongs the drying time somewhat and also feathering between shades. Gives you the advantages of oils but the drying time of enamels. Humbrols also dry matt, and the more you thin and mix them, the flatter they dry. Ive heard this the opposite with Vallejo and a lot of the modern "trendy" paint choices.



That's a great tip there Frank. I might just try that...

Thanks!

Rob
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