Hi
Can anyone help me out with the Orbat of the 3-7 cav during the iraq invasion in 2003.
i know there were 3 troops (companys) named A,B and C. also there were 4 ptns in each troop. i need to know how many M1A1s and M3A2 bradleys were with each Tp. also how they were split into each ptn.
so a complete Troop orbat would be brilliant if possible.
i have dozens of photos that need sorting, anyone that has recieved my pics from 3ID will know what i need.
any sort of link to a site that shows this unit would be fantastic as well, got a few but some always slip the net.
also posted this on ML.
thanks again
Mark
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3-7 cav iraq invasion 2003
ladder5
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 05:59 PM UTC
Thatguy
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:10 PM UTC
Should have been organized as a Force XXI divisional cavalry squadron.
- Headquarters and Headquarters Troop
- Troop A (Ground)
- Troop B (Ground)
- Troop C (Ground)
- Troop D (Air)
- Troop E (Air Service)
- NBC Recon Detachment
The squadron had 27 M1A2 Abrams and 39 M3A2 Bradleys in total. Each ground troop had 2 scout platoons and 2 tank platoons, among other things. Each scout platoon had 6 M3A2s and each tank platoon had 4 M1A2s. There was another tank and another Bradley in the troop headquarters.
- Headquarters and Headquarters Troop
- Troop A (Ground)
- Troop B (Ground)
- Troop C (Ground)
- Troop D (Air)
- Troop E (Air Service)
- NBC Recon Detachment
The squadron had 27 M1A2 Abrams and 39 M3A2 Bradleys in total. Each ground troop had 2 scout platoons and 2 tank platoons, among other things. Each scout platoon had 6 M3A2s and each tank platoon had 4 M1A2s. There was another tank and another Bradley in the troop headquarters.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:54 PM UTC
That's pretty much it above. 3ID Units did not get M1A2s until after OIF1 though. Also, 3/7 CAV drew PrePo stocks from Kuwait, which were also M1A1s. So substitute M1A1 for M1A2 and you have it.
As for task organizing (mixing of units), it changed constantly due to what was needed for the mission.
As for task organizing (mixing of units), it changed constantly due to what was needed for the mission.
ladder5
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:30 AM UTC
Hi
Thanks for the quick replies, both on here and across at ML...
problems sorted.
now to sort out the pics......
mark
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:33 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Should have been organized as a Force XXI divisional cavalry squadron.
- Headquarters and Headquarters Troop
- Troop A (Ground)
- Troop B (Ground)
- Troop C (Ground)
- Troop D (Air)
- Troop E (Air Service)
- NBC Recon Detachment
One small update: D & E Troops were Air Cavalry Troops with eight OH-58Ds Kiowa Warriors each while F Troop was the Aviation Support Troop. All Heavy Divisional Cav Squadrons all had the same organizations and structure, with some equipment differances, such as variants of tanks (A1's vice A2's or A2SEP's and Bradleys (M3A2ODS's vice A3's). The Div Cav was a nice combined arms unit - great esprit as everyone thought themselves to be "Cav" before their controlling Branch.
John
ladder5
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 01:31 AM UTC
Thanks for that update John
the pics of Tanks ive got seem easier to sort as the Markings are bigger....the Bradleys ..well...not going to happen....
mark
Thatguy
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 04:08 AM UTC
Quoted Text
One small update: D & E Troops were Air Cavalry Troops with eight OH-58Ds Kiowa Warriors each while F Troop was the Aviation Support Troop. All Heavy Divisional Cav Squadrons all had the same organizations and structure, with some equipment differances, such as variants of tanks (A1's vice A2's or A2SEP's and Bradleys (M3A2ODS's vice A3's). The Div Cav was a nice combined arms unit - great esprit as everyone thought themselves to be "Cav" before their controlling Branch.
John
Thanks for that. I compared 2 sources and one had 2 air recon troops and no air service troop and the other only showed the breakdown for the 2 units. I supposed that an error had been made in the first source, but it seems it was not the one I had thought heh.
Magpie
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Posted: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 02:55 PM UTC
Good info guys, all I could find through Google was a heap of bollocks about the 3-7 Cav being devastated by a neutron bomb at Baghdad Airport ?????
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