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New S250 HMMWV Photos Added
Sabot
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 11:48 AM UTC
As requested, I took additional photos of the interior of the M966 TOW carrier and the S250 shelter carrier (less shelter). Also seen in these photos are a side-by-side comparision of the soft top and hard top hood, grill and windshield frames. I've also taken photos showing the plywood cover and the differences between the old and new type tires.
MAJ Rob's Motorpool
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 07:14 PM UTC
The plywood is made and installed at the factory and not a locally added item. The plywood is not the normal cheap stuff you see, but rather good quality. It is present in all vehicles that I am aware of, but I am unsure if it is in the ambulance. The size of the plywood various, as you can see in the S250 carrier, the plywood only goes to the back of the front seats and does not continue into the cargo bed. The plywood does go back to the rear seats on regular 2 and 4 door M998/1038s and in the armament carriers such as the M1025/1026/966/1036. You will notice that the plywood has cut outs in the back of the M966 photos.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 08:41 PM UTC

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Ok, so most of the floor is covered by th plywood. Are all the mounts of a weaponscarrier mounted on the Humvee floor or are any of them mounted on top of the plywood?
No, everything is mounted to the metal truck bed. The plywood does not go into the rear bed area (past the backs of the rear seats).

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In your photos it's vissible that there are cut-outs for the gunners-stand and the traffersing-unit mount but what about the rest?
If you look at picture #32, the view of the gunner's platform from above (actually from the turret opening) You will see that the plywood ends even with the rear seats. It's like this on regular HMMWVs, whether 2 or 4 door. Only cutouts on the M966 are for the gunner's platform and traversing unit mount.


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Any good idea on how to represent the plywood in a model? is thin plastic sheet good enough?
If you look a picture #38, the view of the S250 from the driver's seat, you will notice that the plywood is rather thick. Sheet styrene would be good, but I would use a thick sheet.


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What are the rims on the floor of the model? (metal/plastic/wood) and what's the purpose?
I don't understand this question
Sabot
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 09:00 PM UTC

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On the floor of the kits are several "lines" in the lenght of the Humvee. They run from the cargo area up to the engine cover. I hope this makes more sence
If you are talking about the indentations that run along the bed (as seen in photos 34, 35 and 36 of the S250), that is the bed of the truck itself. They run from the tailgate to the engine cover, but are covered by the plywood in the crew compartment. I assume the plywood covers the bed so that when gear is stored between the seats, that the stuff doesn't get damaged by the bed of the truck and that the bed doesn't get tore up by the gear. It is not in the rear cargo compartment because that would be a high traffic area where soldiers' feet who are sitting on the troop benches and heavy equipment would be.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 10:18 PM UTC
ONCE AGAIN ROB, YOU'VE OUT DOWN YOURSELF!!!!!
I was going to take pictures of the shelter bracket my self. This past weekend, we where cleaning up our motor pool and we found a bracket that went to a shelter we turned in. Thought it would be some useful reference pictures for someone, but I didnt have my camera.
With you around, soon we are going to have pictures of ever vehicle in the US Army's inventory here at Armorama.

Thanks Rob
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 07:47 AM UTC

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ONCE AGAIN ROB, YOU'VE OUT DOWN YOURSELF!!!!!
No problem, let me know if you need additional detail shots. The picture of the BII rack and wiper motor detail did not turn out good since the flash didn't go off. I'll re-shoot those tomorrow.
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