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Cougar MRAP
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 03:29 AM UTC
i've been watching bomb patrol Afghanistan and i would like to build a EOD cougar. But first i need a kit, does anyone know where i can find one. Also if anyone has pictures of the Cougar i would be much appreciated. Thanks
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 04:54 AM UTC
Can't help with locating a kit, but Real Models has a nice photo assistant book on the EROC and is having a sale for Christmas.






Real Model


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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 05:14 AM UTC
Thanks rick, i know that cromwell makes/made one. Does anyone know if the cromwell one is available
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 06:54 AM UTC

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Thanks rick, i know that cromwell makes/made one. Does anyone know if the cromwell one is available



http://armorama.com/forums/180136&page=1




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tankfixer
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 05:59 PM UTC
What kind of pictures would you like? This is a Cougar 4x4 with independant suspension. The truck in the first post is a JERRV not a Cougar. Similar but different. I'm a Field Service Rep for the company that builds these trucks and working here in Afghanistan.
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 06:14 PM UTC
You're the perfect guy to answer this question then. I always wondered, what's the deal with the taller Cougars, my trucks all had the regular height roof, but I saw some in Afghanistan that are like the one in your picture, taller roof. Is there a different nomenclature for it?
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 10:28 PM UTC

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You're the perfect guy to answer this question then. I always wondered, what's the deal with the taller Cougars, my trucks all had the regular height roof, but I saw some in Afghanistan that are like the one in your picture, taller roof. Is there a different nomenclature for it?
The one with a raised roof is a
Cougar A2. The most notable difference is the extra 6 inch headroom. Also looking close at the door and under it you will notice some bosses sticking out for extra bolt on armor.
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Posted: Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 11:55 PM UTC
Your technicaly correct Bill, the proper name is JERRV (Joint EOD Rapid Response Vehicle), but ask anybody up here and it's a Cougar



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Posted: Monday, December 12, 2011 - 01:43 AM UTC

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Your technicaly correct Bill, the proper name is JERRV (Joint EOD Rapid Response Vehicle), but ask anybody up here and it's a Cougar



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The JERRV is just a specific configuration of the Force Protection 6x6 Cougar. I'm pretty sure the only reason why the US military makes a distinction between the 2 is because the JERRV is managed through the US Army's PM Assured Mobility Systems, while all the other Cougar variants are managed by the JPO MRAP. This is why there's the Buffalo (JPO MRAP) and the Mine Protected Clearance Vehicle (PM AMS) and the RG-33L (JPO MRAP) and the Panther Medium Mine Protected Vehicle (PM AMS). The US Army understands the JERRV, MPCV, and the MMPV to be members of their family of Route Clearance Vehicles (RCVs) and not part of the MRAP family. Its basically an accounting distinction.
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:32 AM UTC
Thanks for all your help guys, I've ordered the Cromwell models one and i want to know what changes i need to do to the interior to make a EOD vehicle
Tanks guys
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:54 AM UTC

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Thanks for all your help guys, I've ordered the Cromwell models one and i want to know what changes i need to do to the interior to make a EOD vehicle
Tanks guys


Where did you order from?

You will also need an EOD robot.


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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 06:07 AM UTC
yes, where did you order it from. if it wasn't directly from them I'd splurge and get one myself
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 06:49 AM UTC
I ordered it directly from Cromwell, I emailed Gordon and right now its actually on sale 15% off.
With regards to the EOD robot i know AFV club makes the larger talon, but who makes the smaller one that they use.
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 07:26 AM UTC
PM your email address. I'll send you shots of the interior setup. I did mine the same way.
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 10:03 AM UTC

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What kind of pictures would you like?

If you have any of the HE and the JERRV it would be greatly appreciated
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 12:01 PM UTC
Alex are you building a U.S. or Canadian version?
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 12:13 PM UTC

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Alex are you building a U.S. or Canadian version?

I'm not sure yet, still compiling reference picture. If you have any I would greatly appreciate the help
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 02:25 PM UTC
I have not yet checked my email this evening. Did you get the photos I sent earlier today? I scratchbuilt that Talon, although as you said it's out in plastic now. The other is a resin/PE offering from HobbyFan.
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 02:40 PM UTC
I did Rob, thanks alot for the pictures. I've been busy studying for finals so i haven't been able to respond to your email. But where did you find the Packbot. From watching Bomb Patrol i notice that they carry 2 talon's and a Packbot as a back up or lightweight portable one
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 03:17 PM UTC
I must have gotten the Packbot from (gasp!) Ebay. I don't know why so many people have disparaging things to say about it. I have a pretty good relationship with a few of the sellers on there, and can usually get smokin' good deals when I buy several things at once.
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 03:19 PM UTC

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Alex are you building a U.S. or Canadian version?

I'm not sure yet, still compiling reference picture. If you have any I would greatly appreciate the help


The Cromwell kit has to be modified to create the Canadian Cougar EROC version...different bin arrangement on the left side, different machine gun turret, different antenna mounts, and a few other details that need to be removed or added.
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 03:31 PM UTC

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I must have gotten the Packbot from (gasp!) Ebay. I don't know why so many people have disparaging things to say about it. I have a pretty good relationship with a few of the sellers on there, and can usually get smokin' good deals when I buy several things at once.

Hey rob is this the kit you got the Packbot from
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=HF%20594
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 01:33 AM UTC

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Alex are you building a U.S. or Canadian version?

I'm not sure yet, still compiling reference picture. If you have any I would greatly appreciate the help


The Cromwell kit has to be modified to create the Canadian Cougar EROC version...different bin arrangement on the left side, different machine gun turret, different antenna mounts, and a few other details that need to be removed or added.

Do you have any photos of the Canadian version, just so i could compare it to the American
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 01:49 AM UTC
The one that I posted was the Canadian version.



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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 03:22 AM UTC

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Hey rob is this the kit you got the Packbot from
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=HF%20594


That's the one.
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