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vallejo clear re-coat time
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 01:25 PM UTC
Gentlemen,I see thet vallejo recomends a 4 hour dry time beween coats of their varnish,be it gloss,satin,or matte.Is this really the case or can that time be pushed Thanks,Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 05:38 PM UTC
Jeff,

All manufacturer's instructions err on the side of caution, especially paint makers. How do they know whether you are spraying in a humidity and temperature controlled room (like I do), or a garage in Florida in June with 100% humidity? Even so, the manufacturer will recommend optimum times to allow their product to perform it's ultimate best.
That being said, Vallejo varnishes are excellent, and I have added an additional coat in as little as half an hour without it milking on me. I have also waited 3 days for my final varnish coat to cure before using other mediums on it.
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 01:32 AM UTC
Matt,Thanks for the answer,it's what I was looking for.Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 08:19 AM UTC
I use window cleaner as a solvent for them and if I apply it in thin coats, I never wait more than 10min.



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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 11:55 AM UTC
what are your thinning ratios?Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 07:19 PM UTC
If I have to thin Model Air, (and varnishes I never do) I wouldn't use anything containing alcohol or ammonia. Vallejo thinner, Distilled water, or Liquitex Flo-Aid are the thinners to use for Vallejo products.
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Posted: Friday, December 23, 2011 - 03:54 AM UTC

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I use window cleaner as a solvent for them and if I apply it in thin coats, I never wait more than 10min.






Wait a minute....Francisco, does the window cleaner you use have ammonia in it?

I was told ammonia products like window cleaners (Windex over here) did not work with Vallejo.

I'm intrigued....

Rob
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Posted: Friday, December 23, 2011 - 04:00 AM UTC

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If I have to thin Model Air, (and varnishes I never do) I wouldn't use anything containing alcohol or ammonia. Vallejo thinner, Distilled water, or Liquitex Flo-Aid are the thinners to use for Vallejo products.



Matt, I know you and others have said in the past (as you did now) that ammonia-based products like Windex, etc. should not be used with Vallejo. However, I have to say that I've heard from many who use that combo without issues. And judging by Francisco's excellent sub I can tell it works for him too. I'm at a loss on this one. I know I've tried using Windex with Vallejo Air once and ended up with a completely clogged airbrush but I can't understand how others make it work the way they do. What's the trick here?

Rob
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Posted: Friday, December 23, 2011 - 04:47 AM UTC
I too have not had good luck using windex to clean out my AB after spraying vallejo.For me it makes a mess.Somewhere in another thread Simple Green was mentoined as a cleaner.I had some and tried it and it worked well.Jeff
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