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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 07:03 AM UTC
I did something wrong, after spraying the model with 25% X21 flat base and 75% future it has a slight white haze to it. Can I re-spray future to it with less X21 after a few hours to gloss it up a bit?

Thanks, George
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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 07:24 AM UTC
Might be a result of mixing the two. I have never mixed anything with Future. It might not be reversable.

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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 07:37 AM UTC
What was the temperature/humidity like in the area where you were spraying?
Cold temperatures and/or high humidity can cause white areas or 'blooming' in clear finishes which can be difficult to erradicate.
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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 07:58 AM UTC
According to my modelling buddies, the flat base is for turning gloss colored paints flat. If used as a clear it will turn milky white .Almost made the same mistake and luckily someone at the local hobbyshop stopped me. Recently Tamiya has released a clear flat for overcoating...I just can't recall the number!
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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 05:23 PM UTC
George,

Flat Base and Future make a great flat coat, I use the mixture all the time. If an area has frosted on you, just shoot it with a light coat of straight Future and the frosting will disappear. Then you can go back and flat coat it again.
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Posted: Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 09:49 PM UTC
That is exactly what I did and all is well. Thanks to all for your help.
George
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 12:15 PM UTC

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George,

Flat Base and Future make a great flat coat, I use the mixture all the time. If an area has frosted on you, just shoot it with a light coat of straight Future and the frosting will disappear. Then you can go back and flat coat it again.



Hey Matthew,

What are your mixing ratios for this? I might give this a try.

Thanks,
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 09:20 PM UTC
I spent a day testing ratios on the bottom of a Dunkelgrau junk model.
I use 2 parts flat base to 3 parts Future, or 40% flat base to 60% Future to put it another way. People talk about dead flat but this stuff is black hole non reflective.
At 50/50 it started to go white and got worse from there, of course. But 40/60 works incredibly and it has never gone FUBAR on me.
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 09:45 PM UTC
Thanks, Matt!

2:3 it is, then, and written down on my bulletin board for next time
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Posted: Monday, January 02, 2012 - 02:38 AM UTC
Very interesting, never knew you could mix these, guess I have learned something new today. I will have to try this.

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