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PSP Plating
Mario_HR
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 04:00 AM UTC
Sebastien Viale reviews Pro Art Model''s new offering - PSP Plating in PE with resin jigs for parts shaping - kit PAU-35044
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bill_c
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 05:23 AM UTC
I'm unclear about how many plates you get for 16 Euros. It looks like 4 but I may be misreading the review.
Marsden matting (another name for these things) are crucial for building 1/32nd scale planes serving in the war. One of the issues with them, though, is whether they were painted green, and if so, did they retain that color or turn rusty?
Frenchy???
Marsden matting (another name for these things) are crucial for building 1/32nd scale planes serving in the war. One of the issues with them, though, is whether they were painted green, and if so, did they retain that color or turn rusty?
Frenchy???
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 05:48 AM UTC
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I'm unclear about how many plates you get for 16 Euros. It looks like 4 but I may be misreading the review.
Marsden matting (another name for these things) are crucial for building 1/32nd scale planes serving in the war. One of the issues with them, though, is whether they were painted green, and if so, did they retain that color or turn rusty?
Frenchy???
according to this reference, they were painted in green
http://140.194.76.129/publications/eng-pamphlets/ep870-1-42/c-3-4.pdf
On page 10 you can read:
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Once formed, the mat went through a finishing process. This
consisted of dipping the mat into a degreasing solution that
removed residues before paint was applied. The mat received
an Army-green camouflage coat and was then baked, cooled,
and packed for shipping.
...It doesn't matter....but why the pics are uspside down?
cheers
seb43
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 07:56 AM UTC
Price:
Starting kit 4 PSP 16€
Refill for 4 PSP 6€
And yes the pics are upside down.
Starting kit 4 PSP 16€
Refill for 4 PSP 6€
And yes the pics are upside down.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 08:16 AM UTC
Wow!! $20 plus shipping for 4 small pieces of PSP is crazy if you ask me. $5 for the 4 additional PSP plates isn't bad. $15 for the resin bending pieces is nuts. They should be free as part of the set. Once you are done, they are scrap.
It may look nice, but isn't worth that much. I'll pass.
Removed by original poster on 01/04/12 - 20:56:00 (GMT).
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 09:05 AM UTC
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Marsden matting (another name for these things) are crucial for building 1/32nd scale planes serving in the war. One of the issues with them, though, is whether they were painted green, and if so, did they retain that color or turn rusty?
Frenchy???
Hi Bill
I guess Mauro has provided the answer for the color question. Taking into account :
1) the price of Pro Art set
2) the number of plates you would need for a 1:32nd scale aircraft dio
...other options may be worth considering
http://www.radubstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=202
Frenchy
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 09:09 AM UTC
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...other options may be worth considering
http://www.radubstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=202
That's much more reasonable, 18 pieces for basically $18, covering about 4" x 8". This is what Pro Art should be selling; what a rip off!
Mario_HR
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC
Regarding the pics, they are correctly rotated but the uploading script seems to play tricks... I tried uploading new ones but they keep coming out like this. I will check what's the deal and upload again. Sorry for the inconvenience I will try to remedy this ASAP.
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 10:34 AM UTC
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Regarding the pics, they are correctly rotated but the uploading script seems to play tricks... I tried uploading new ones but they keep coming out like this. I will check what's the deal and upload again. Sorry for the inconvenience I will try to remedy this ASAP.
Don't worry Mario, however they are exhaustive.
Thanks to have posted the article and thanks to Seb for the review
cheers
chrisw
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 12:10 PM UTC
As others have pointed out, the Verlinden PSP set is not the only other one on the market.
But what is interesting about the Pro-Art set is that it allows you to make the PSP more 3-dimensional and realistic. All the other sets are just flat sheets. I wonder if you could buy the Pro-Art set, and then use the jig to improve other 1/35 scale PSP sheets? Are they the same size?
But what is interesting about the Pro-Art set is that it allows you to make the PSP more 3-dimensional and realistic. All the other sets are just flat sheets. I wonder if you could buy the Pro-Art set, and then use the jig to improve other 1/35 scale PSP sheets? Are they the same size?
bill_c
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Posted: Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:43 AM UTC
Frenchy, you were reading my mind. And Radu Brinzan is great to deal with and aces for service and quality. His seat belts for 1/32nd aircraft are the gold standard. And I believe he mentioned somewhere he'd work with modelers on price who need larger numbers of these mats.
I would like to know, too, if the resin forming tools could be used to improve the other Marsden mats.
And, thanks, Mauro, for the info. I wonder if the mats rusted?
I would like to know, too, if the resin forming tools could be used to improve the other Marsden mats.
And, thanks, Mauro, for the info. I wonder if the mats rusted?
seb43
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Posted: Friday, January 06, 2012 - 04:19 AM UTC
Bill
Nope since the central grooves and holes have a smaller thickness that is not present on the Verlinden ones.
For the other set I cannot comment I don't have them.
HTH
Cheers
Seb
Nope since the central grooves and holes have a smaller thickness that is not present on the Verlinden ones.
For the other set I cannot comment I don't have them.
HTH
Cheers
Seb
Radub-
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Posted: Friday, January 06, 2012 - 09:12 PM UTC
Hello everyone,
I can see that there are a number of questions about my PSP planks.
They are detailed on both sides, on one side they feature indented grooves and indented edges around the holes, while on the other side they feature raised edges around the holes and raised ribs. So, they do feature "3D" detail.
The hooks do not need any special tool to bend. They are small and thin and they can be easily bent, one or two at a time, with a pliers. After that they can be interlocked as needed.
As for the price, I tried to keep it as low as possible. The sheet is very large, half the size of a printerr sheet - compare it with similarly sized brass "real estate" from other manufacturers. But I can offer discounts for bulk purchases, so please contact me via the store if you want to cover a large area. I have a limited stock of these, but do not worry, nothing is really "out of stock" in my store for long - I make these, so if you need them, I make them.
Thanks Bill for your endorsement.
Radu
I can see that there are a number of questions about my PSP planks.
They are detailed on both sides, on one side they feature indented grooves and indented edges around the holes, while on the other side they feature raised edges around the holes and raised ribs. So, they do feature "3D" detail.
The hooks do not need any special tool to bend. They are small and thin and they can be easily bent, one or two at a time, with a pliers. After that they can be interlocked as needed.
As for the price, I tried to keep it as low as possible. The sheet is very large, half the size of a printerr sheet - compare it with similarly sized brass "real estate" from other manufacturers. But I can offer discounts for bulk purchases, so please contact me via the store if you want to cover a large area. I have a limited stock of these, but do not worry, nothing is really "out of stock" in my store for long - I make these, so if you need them, I make them.
Thanks Bill for your endorsement.
Radu
Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, January 06, 2012 - 10:15 PM UTC
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I wonder if the mats rusted?
I guess so, but I believe it depends on the geographical location and the degree of wear. Here's a Coast Guard base in Greenland :
Full size
Even though the pictured mats are apparently not PSPs, but something very similar...
HTH
Frenchy
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