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AK Interactive: Expanding the Line
c5flies
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 04:57 PM UTC
AK Interactive and AK Interactive USA continue to expand their line of finishing products, including items from Badger Airbrush and Uschi van der Rosten.
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Tojo72
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 01:42 AM UTC
Wow,that's pretty interesting.It will be cool to see how their version of Blacken-it works and how much it will be in comparison
Ranchhand
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 06:12 AM UTC
It was originally part of uschis stuff, because blacken it was hard to get overseas...
at least that's what i have read somewhere. It will be interesting to see a comparison
at least that's what i have read somewhere. It will be interesting to see a comparison
c5flies
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 12:14 PM UTC
Uschi still sells this, and with AK handling this, along with the disc camo, makes it easier for us Stateside to order it. There is a pretty good video demo on Uschi's site on the track solution stuff...great site to visit in any case 
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 07:24 AM UTC
Are their paints acrylic or enamel? I missed the previous paint sets. 
docdios
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 07:43 AM UTC
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Are their paints acrylic or enamel? I missed the previous paint sets.
I believe they are acrylic very similar to vallejo if not actually produced by Vallejo
Keith
c5flies
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 08:06 AM UTC
They are acrylics Frank (should have mentioned that since the image is hard to see)
The paints for the Panzer grey and German Camo modulation sets are not manufactured by Vallejo, so it'll be interesting to see how they perform compared to the original CM sets.
The paints for the Panzer grey and German Camo modulation sets are not manufactured by Vallejo, so it'll be interesting to see how they perform compared to the original CM sets.
docdios
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 09:28 AM UTC
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They are acrylics Frank (should have mentioned that since the image is hard to see)
The paints for the Panzer grey and German Camo modulation sets are not manufactured by Vallejo, so it'll be interesting to see how they perform compared to the original CM sets.
Hi James
According to AK's catalogue it's states with the colour modulation sets -8 jars of 17ml acrylic paint by AK interactive and Vallejo acrylics so I assume that they are produced by Vallejo to the specification tones required by AK.
So I guess the quality will be the usual high standard we get from Vallejo but i don't know if they are similar to there model colour or model air range
Keith
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 10:11 PM UTC
Thanks James and Keith.
I was hoping for a new range of enamels ... as so much of their weathering sets are enamel based, and the DVD I have talks about their advantages over acrylics. I was sort of hoping to have enamel paints so I could mix my own. I can understand out-sourcing the product to well reknown company such as Vallejo, but this in my mind doesn´t offer something totally unique or ground breaking. Although I dont use acrylics for painting, I have never felt the need to have every single variant of a colour ... I can mix my own. But thats just me and Im sure others may find this very interesting and worth having.
I was hoping for a new range of enamels ... as so much of their weathering sets are enamel based, and the DVD I have talks about their advantages over acrylics. I was sort of hoping to have enamel paints so I could mix my own. I can understand out-sourcing the product to well reknown company such as Vallejo, but this in my mind doesn´t offer something totally unique or ground breaking. Although I dont use acrylics for painting, I have never felt the need to have every single variant of a colour ... I can mix my own. But thats just me and Im sure others may find this very interesting and worth having.
docdios
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 01:33 AM UTC
I guess these sets are designed for convenience or lazy modellers, i dont know many who actually work at the modulation of colour to the extent that I have seen MIG or Adam Wilder use it (with great results) but then i guess most modellers are not in the same artistic mould either.
No doubt I will give a set a try at some point
Keith
No doubt I will give a set a try at some point
Keith
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 01:42 AM UTC
Having used the 4BO modulation set I can say that these paint sets are absolutely first class. I was pretty dubious at first, especially when I found out they were Vallejo because I've always found Vellejo model air too thin to spray and model colour (even when thinned) clogs up my airbrush. These paints however are the best I have ever used for airbrushing. I don't know if Vallejo changed the formula but these spray like a dream, the consistency is just perfect, you can spray them straight out without any thinning.
I'm not one to be bought into something by marketing hype but I really cannot recommend these paint sets enough. Sure you could mix the colours from existing paints, but in my opinion the results will not be as good as this.
I'm not one to be bought into something by marketing hype but I really cannot recommend these paint sets enough. Sure you could mix the colours from existing paints, but in my opinion the results will not be as good as this.
c5flies
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 04:19 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThey are acrylics Frank (should have mentioned that since the image is hard to see)
The paints for the Panzer grey and German Camo modulation sets are not manufactured by Vallejo, so it'll be interesting to see how they perform compared to the original CM sets.
Hi James
According to AK's catalogue it's states with the colour modulation sets -8 jars of 17ml acrylic paint by AK interactive and Vallejo acrylics so I assume that they are produced by Vallejo to the specification tones required by AK.
So I guess the quality will be the usual high standard we get from Vallejo but i don't know if they are similar to there model colour or model air range
Keith
The 2 new sets will only contain 6 bottles of paint...no primer and no satin varnish. As I understand it, the new paints will have a more glossy finish eliminating the need for varnish.
The reason I mentioned that these are not Vallejo paints is from this email I received from Alex Vallejo, in part:
the colors that they (ed. AK interactive) are using in the German panzer grey and german camouflage are not manufacted by our company (ed. Vallejo Acrylics).
Otherwise, having used the Dunklegelb CM set, I thought the set was very well laid out color wise and easy to use with decent results even for someone new to this style.
docdios
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 05:46 AM UTC
Thanks for the update James
I was under the impression that the owner of AK was in some way connected to Vallejo, either family or a previous owner in Vallejo at some point.
either way having used AK products over the last year or so I would expect the quality to be excellent
cheers
Keith
I was under the impression that the owner of AK was in some way connected to Vallejo, either family or a previous owner in Vallejo at some point.
either way having used AK products over the last year or so I would expect the quality to be excellent
cheers
Keith
firstcircle
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 12:50 AM UTC
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I was under the impression that the owner of AK was in some way connected to Vallejo, either family or a previous owner in Vallejo at some point.
Keith, this confusion is addressed by Mig on the AK blog. It seems that a Vallejo is President of AK, but he is not related to the paint Vallejos. It also deals with the Mig not being involved with the company that bears his name situation.
Agree that there is no need to have every shade of paint as you can mix your own - although one could argue I suppose that you only really need white, black, yellow, blue and red in acrylic, oil and enamel - and you're covered. There are however modellers, like Mig I suppose, and others building to order etc. who are banging out a model a week, with high quality finishes, and there is going to be an advantage in having everyting ready mixed and having all the colours you've used repeatable for touching up etc. It's a bit like the wheel masks; it's actually not too hard to make your own from paper or styrene with a circle cutter, but perhaps when speed and convenience is higher up the list than money then it is worth it.
Of course there are modellers who have other modellers to make up some of the kits for them to paint - like the artists' studio system.
CDK
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 05:02 AM UTC
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I was hoping for a new range of enamels ... as so much of their weathering sets are enamel based, and the DVD I have talks about their advantages over acrylics.
But that's exactly why the paints are acrylic, the advantages of enamel weathering products over acrylic paints would be lost if these paints were enamel.
And James is right, while the two original sets were made up of Vallejo paints, the new sets (AK 160, AK 167) are not Vallejo paints.
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