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M1000 trailer from Hobby Boss
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 08:08 AM UTC
Hi all,

It seems you guys are all having fun with your builds on here, so I thought I'd show you all what I'm doing on these cold Winter evenings....

I couldn't resist this kit when I saw it, even though I normally build aircraft. This has gotta be the kit of 2011, alongside Tamiya's 1/32 P-51??

I thought I'd start with the Trailer, as Milo is gonna be making some AM for the Tractor. Put me down for one of those Engines Milo!!

Here is all I've done so far..



There's 359 parts and a weeks work there!!

The suspension units are superb. They have springs in each unit, so will conform to any surface and will sag when weighted. They also swivel. The polished steel painted shocks are masked in these pics.




I ignored the HB recommended routings for the tubing and followed references found on the net. (Prime Portal). If you're building this kit, you need to add the tubing as you go. It would be near impossible to feed the tubes under the "Shockers" once built.

You'll notice I've added brass rods to the units for added strength. These will be fitted into additional plastic slugs glued into their mountings in the trailer bed.



It appears that HB allow you to steer the suspension units, right until the end when you fit the track rods, which should be glued in place. I want to position my units in any configuration, so I scratch built these track rods from brass, and added brass rod for the pivots. The white plastic rings were made with a punch from .020" card.They pop on, and are then fixed with a dab of super glue.



Thanks for looking,please leave your comments.

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 08:46 AM UTC
Good God, what I'm still waiting.
Very nice work,
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 11:14 AM UTC
Nigel
What a start on the trailer.
Great great work


Good luck with it. What will be the load??
Cheers
Seb
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 05:28 AM UTC
M1000Trailer Walk Around
http://www.realmodel.cz/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=65%3Am-1070-het&Itemid=50&limitstart=100
gloucesternige
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Posted: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 01:23 PM UTC

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Nigel
What a start on the trailer.
Great great work


Good luck with it. What will be the load??
Cheers
Seb



Thanks Seb,

I haven't decided on a load yet?? My first goal is to actually finish this massive task.

I have an AFV M88 in my Stash which could well find it's way onto this trailer

Nige???
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Posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:06 AM UTC
Here's a small update for today...

I've started on the wheels, all 42 of them!!!



You'll notice the brake drums in the background. This is my first attempt with Mig pigments, in an attempt to duplicate some light rust on them... not very good really...

You'll also notice theres a load of mr surfacer on the wheels. Here's why...



For some reason, HB have made the inner hub of the wheels seperate from the rim. Ok I hear you say... but why have they put the seam around the holes in the wheel?? I don't understand why they didn't put the join all around the rim, then mould the hole in the wheel itself??

Because of this, there is a visible seam which needs to be filled with something or other, and sanded smooth deep inside the wheel...20 times!!!! Yes, this is the outward facing wheel face!!



Anyway, enough whinging....this kit is awesome. I'm really enjoying the build, even if most stages in the process are repeated at least ten times.

More pics later...

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:19 AM UTC
Nigel;
this is awesome. Still waiting for my kit to arrive from Omnimodels (c'mon guys!!)and am going to be reading this and taking diligent notes. Cheers.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 08:12 AM UTC

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Nigel;
this is awesome. Still waiting for my kit to arrive from Omnimodels (c'mon guys!!)and am going to be reading this and taking diligent notes. Cheers.



Thanks for your kind words Damon,

If I were you, I would follow Milo's build, he's the master of the 1070 it seems??

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 08:34 AM UTC
brilliant posting! love the copper rods to the steering thingies

very intresting to follow

thumbs up!

greetz
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Posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:47 PM UTC
I've been busy last night working on the main structure of the trailer, here's the result...



This thing is starting to get big!! Note that if you decide to scratch build the track rods as I have, you need to change the build sequence. The track rods need to be fitted to the swivels before fitting to the spine. It will not be possible to do this mod after the spine is assembled.

There are a couple of points to look out for here....



There is a seam to deal with on the round part here, right between the two unpainted blocks. Theres also a gap either side of the round part that needs filling with plastic strip. I should have taken pics before painting it all

There are also some ejector pin marks that need filling. I've used plastic card and mr surfacer.



These marks are under the gooseneck, so you may decide to leave them??
Thankyou Hobby Boss for this kit. Your engineers have designed the tooling so well!! These are the first visible ejector pin marks I've come across, in nearly 400 parts!!

Thanks for dropping by

Nige
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2012 - 05:29 AM UTC
Well, I've started on the bed of the trailer. Mine was a little warped and twisted, so i had to glue on the under-sections and leave it under a pile of books for 24 hours.

Here's the bed...



There is a gap along the underside, where the panels join, so this needs to be filled somehow.

I've chosen to fill it with stretched sprue, then follow up with some of the good old mr Surfacer 500.



I found another couple of ejector pins that need filling!!


So, that's 8 in total so far!! Pretty good I say!!

Thanks for stopping by.

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 04:21 AM UTC
I found a little error in the kits gooseneck..

The upper and lower "flanges" on the gooseneck should overhang on the inside and outside, but HB have only given us an overhang on the outside.

So, it's out with the plastic strip....





The strip is then trimmed back and sanded flush...





Then a little paint is added to check the look... Note I've also added weld beads to the outer overhanging joints.





If you haven't built your trailer yet, this mod will be much easier to do before the gooseneck is assembled. Just trace around the flanges onto some .5mm card before the flanges are fitted. Oh... if you're thinking the PE steps won't fit between the legs now, don't worry, I checked. They still have a little clearance each side.

I think it looks much better with this mod than OOB// What do you think??

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 08:44 AM UTC
Another note for anyone who hasn't built their trailer yet..

In steps 2 and 3, you will be adding the hydraulic lines to the gooseneck. There are 4 off hoses that go from the cylinders near the fifth wheel at the front end, which are to be 2x 95 and 2x 105mm long. You need to make these hoses 100mm and 110mm long respectively. If you make them the lengths as suggested in the instructions, they are very tight and pull on the photo-etched steps. Don't ask me how I know!!

I've now sanded and blended those nasty seams in the trailer bed, and this is how they look..



And... following a little check with some paint...



Thanks for looking.

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 09:10 AM UTC
Hi Nige,

thx for the tips and tricks, they will be very helpful as soon as i finish the tractor. your build looks very nice. what are you going to put on the trailer?

kind regards Mike
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 - 02:31 PM UTC
Question about the wheel carriages on the real deal. Are the carriages steerable or do they pivot on their own to match the turn radius as its pulled through the turn?
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 05:31 AM UTC

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Question about the wheel carriages on the real deal. Are the carriages steerable or do they pivot on their own to match the turn radius as its pulled through the turn?



The bogies are actually steered. The arc of turn decreases as you move toward the front of the trailer right up to the front pair, which don't steer at all.

They are steered via a pair of hydraulic rams at the rear of the tyrailer, which in turn are operated by a pair of rams at the front, in the gooseneck. As the tractor turns, the front rams are operated via the "wedge" locked into the fifth wheel.

As you watch my build come together, all will become clear.

Nige
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 11:50 AM UTC
I've been having fun, as you can see here....





It's nice to see all the sub assemblies finally coming together at last!!

Here you can see my positionable steering turned to the right...


And, to the left...


Thanks for looking.

Nige
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2012 - 02:12 AM UTC
I've just noticed a couple of omissions in the instructions for the trailer...

This is stage 16. This part is not called up during assembly, but suddenly appears here??



And then here in section 19, the same thing happens.



Hope this helps someone??

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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2012 - 07:46 AM UTC
I got the AA one last year and it scarced me because I never did resin so I waited. Till I had more experience with resin but. Oh ya now hobbyboss came along an I got one an I will use yours as a guide.

Is there any aftermarket stuff out yet for this m1070/m1000 I seen some stuff in post for this massive beast an not sure who made it.

Happy modeling
William DeCicco
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2012 - 11:35 PM UTC

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Is there any aftermarket stuff out yet for this m1070/m1000 I seen some stuff in post for this massive beast an not sure who made it.

Happy modeling
William DeCicco



Hi William,

Milo at Real model makes wheels, as does DEF models, but they are almost as much as the kit. Real models wheels are very reasonable. He's also gonna make some trailer wheels, which I would advise buying as the kit wheels require a lot of work.

Eduard are going to make a CPK set and an interior set apparently?

I'm sure there will be a lot of AM for this eventually.

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 10:22 AM UTC
Nigel,
Amazing work. I also look forward to the construction trailer. But now the preferred engine set.
Miloslav
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 06:19 AM UTC
Can I use the AA parts you mentioned for now or would it be incorrect.

Happy modeling
William DeCicco



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Is there any aftermarket stuff out yet for this m1070/m1000 I seen some stuff in post for this massive beast an not sure who made it.

Happy modeling
William DeCicco



Hi William,

Milo at Real model makes wheels, as does DEF models, but they are almost as much as the kit. Real models wheels are very reasonable. He's also gonna make some trailer wheels, which I would advise buying as the kit wheels require a lot of work.

Eduard are going to make a CPK set and an interior set apparently?

I'm sure there will be a lot of AM for this eventually.

Nige

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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 07:54 AM UTC
[quote]Can I use the AA parts you mentioned for now or would it be incorrect.

Happy modeling
William DeCicco


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I'm not sure what you mean William??

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:31 AM UTC
[quote][quote]Can I use the AA parts you mentioned for now or would it be incorrect.

Happy modeling
William DeCicco

The wheels an the interior of the AA kit fit into the HB kit. Sorry I have a head cold an I was loopy from the cold medicine. I didn't know how to explain it.


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I'm not sure what you mean William??

Nige

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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 10:03 AM UTC
William,

I would keep the AA kit together if I were you. If you ever decide to move it on, it'll be an incomplete kit, which will reduce it's value drastically.

Anyway...

Heres the underside all done. I'm working on all the PE parts and marker lights now.





I'm also struggling with the weathering of the wheels and tyres!! They look awful!!

Thanks for looking

Nige
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