Now it happened: Iīm stuck.
The assembly of my Schwimmwagen went smoothly, even the painting scheme works well. She is now covered with satin coat and waiting to be weathered.
My problem is that I donīt know where to start. I thought about giving it a very dusty overall look with splashes of wet mud over it to make it as dirty as possible.
I just donīt know where to start. I sort of panic as I havenīt done any armor before and being afraid of ruining it, or that after the weathering the model wonīt fit the street scene...
I have two days of vacation left and Iīm gonna finish this!!!!
Toni
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Envar
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 06:05 PM UTC
CaptainJack
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 07:41 PM UTC
Envar,
try starting with a ligth oil paint wash. This can be easily removed if you don't like the results. I use an odd technique. But hen again I'm odd by nature, and consider it a virtie.
I do my washes with the application of a rainbow host of small localised colours, all well diluted. By varying the tonality you vary the depth.
Jack Suomi
try starting with a ligth oil paint wash. This can be easily removed if you don't like the results. I use an odd technique. But hen again I'm odd by nature, and consider it a virtie.
I do my washes with the application of a rainbow host of small localised colours, all well diluted. By varying the tonality you vary the depth.
Jack Suomi
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 09:09 PM UTC
For a dusty finish I airbrush a thinned coating of Tamiya Buff color. I would work from the bottom to the top, going in layers from the front to the back. I usually do two or three light coats and build up slowly.
For mud I have used hardware store spackle (joint compound). I just use a small probe and dab on the 'mud' where appropriate. The spackle dries smooth and with a semi gloss paint on top looks like wet mud. You can add in a bit of static grass if you want.
Another method of dust I use is pastels. I scrape off a big pile of the desired color(s) into a soda bottle top. I then take a stiff brisstle brush and work it into the pile. The I brush liberally on the model. Again, bottom to top.
These have worked for me, I hope this helps.
For mud I have used hardware store spackle (joint compound). I just use a small probe and dab on the 'mud' where appropriate. The spackle dries smooth and with a semi gloss paint on top looks like wet mud. You can add in a bit of static grass if you want.
Another method of dust I use is pastels. I scrape off a big pile of the desired color(s) into a soda bottle top. I then take a stiff brisstle brush and work it into the pile. The I brush liberally on the model. Again, bottom to top.
These have worked for me, I hope this helps.
AndersHeintz
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:37 PM UTC
Envar,
Thee is a great way to make mudd splashes, check out the article Paul Owen wrote find it HERE
Might wanna try it on a peice of scrap first though
Thee is a great way to make mudd splashes, check out the article Paul Owen wrote find it HERE
Might wanna try it on a peice of scrap first though
herberta
Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:44 PM UTC
Hi Toni
First, have you taken a look at my Schwimmy in the Diorama gallery? I'll describe what I did here.
First I got the regular basecoat done, added decals etc. I painted it with PollyScale German Yellow on the uppers, and dark earth on the running gear and all areas below the waterline.
Similar to Jack, I used an overall wash of raw umber oil paint heavily diluted with odorless thinner. I then added some more washes of various dirty colors. I also used globs of raw umber oil on the lower parts to simulate ground in mud/dirt.
I used pastel chalks and a bit of pencil lead to add dust to the lower parts and the rest of the vehicle. I don't have an airbrush, but I find ground up pastel chalks work like a charm for dust. Could be because they are... dust!
I wanted my Schwimmy to look like it had recently come out of the water. I don't know if it worked, but I used diluted white glue as a wash all over the surfaces that would get wet. I added some drops of that mess over the engine compartment etc. to represent splashes of water in the dust. I don't think that worked!
The white glue wash (2 coats) added a sheen to the lower surfaces that I like.
Is your kit the recent Tamiya Schwimmy? Nice kit, eh!
First, have you taken a look at my Schwimmy in the Diorama gallery? I'll describe what I did here.
First I got the regular basecoat done, added decals etc. I painted it with PollyScale German Yellow on the uppers, and dark earth on the running gear and all areas below the waterline.
Similar to Jack, I used an overall wash of raw umber oil paint heavily diluted with odorless thinner. I then added some more washes of various dirty colors. I also used globs of raw umber oil on the lower parts to simulate ground in mud/dirt.
I used pastel chalks and a bit of pencil lead to add dust to the lower parts and the rest of the vehicle. I don't have an airbrush, but I find ground up pastel chalks work like a charm for dust. Could be because they are... dust!
I wanted my Schwimmy to look like it had recently come out of the water. I don't know if it worked, but I used diluted white glue as a wash all over the surfaces that would get wet. I added some drops of that mess over the engine compartment etc. to represent splashes of water in the dust. I don't think that worked!
The white glue wash (2 coats) added a sheen to the lower surfaces that I like.
Is your kit the recent Tamiya Schwimmy? Nice kit, eh!
herberta
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Posted: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:46 PM UTC
Oops, I forgot to mention that pastel chalks work much better applied to a matt surface. I tried weathering a T-34 with a semi-gloss finish. The chalk just wouldn't stick!
Envar
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 04:52 AM UTC
Tanks everybody for the tips!
This time my path was chosen for me as I placed the model on a paper with CA glue on it...
First I panicked, tried to think of a way to clean the dried glue. Damn, I just finished the painting.
Instead of removing the glue, I added more! Itīs gel-like glue and guess what: in two minutes I had made pieces of dried mud and in ten minutes I was able to paint!
I used reddish tone for the mud, added some of the colours I used for the cobblestone road to make it fit, and after that gave it a light spray with a lighter tone. I used Citadel and awesome Lifecolor acrylics.
The result looks great to my eye. Too bad Iīm not able to take production shots now as my camera in unavailable...
I should make a series of my "lucky accidents"....
Thanks again,
Toni
This time my path was chosen for me as I placed the model on a paper with CA glue on it...
First I panicked, tried to think of a way to clean the dried glue. Damn, I just finished the painting.
Instead of removing the glue, I added more! Itīs gel-like glue and guess what: in two minutes I had made pieces of dried mud and in ten minutes I was able to paint!
I used reddish tone for the mud, added some of the colours I used for the cobblestone road to make it fit, and after that gave it a light spray with a lighter tone. I used Citadel and awesome Lifecolor acrylics.
The result looks great to my eye. Too bad Iīm not able to take production shots now as my camera in unavailable...
I should make a series of my "lucky accidents"....
Thanks again,
Toni
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 05:17 AM UTC
Darn......you lucky bastard Envar.....
I've some armor to weather. Preferably the "Stalingrad look".
Can I bring em over some time.....
I've some armor to weather. Preferably the "Stalingrad look".
Can I bring em over some time.....
Envar
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Posted: Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 05:25 AM UTC
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Preferably the "Stalingrad look".
Just keep it under running water and put it in the freezer!
Thatīs what I would do...only that it would probably result in a catastrophy. My freezer would blow up just for general principle and I would find my model in good shape, with some strange freezer liquids attached to it, it would look perfect in scale and if you touch it itīs cold.
Would be just my luck I guess...
Toni