Wal-Mart offers a set of oil paints for about $7-8. Thats the price of just a few tubes of W&N oils.
I have a few W&N oils, I just thought if I could get away with spending less, I would give it a shot.
I know there's an FSM feature on how to mix and add additives to craft store acrylics and use them in your AB. Has anyone tried different oils?
I guess I should mention that these won't be for painting figures. I might use them a little on figures but as far as I'm concerned I just want them for streaking, dot-filtering, and some washes... what do you think?
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Can I use cheaper oil paints?
Thivi11
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 11:34 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 12:06 PM UTC
The general rule in economy is: the cheaper the product, the lower the quality. You could settle for cheaper oils, but I would stick with the study-line of known brands. Those are somewhat cheaper yet have decent pigments and should last a while. I use Talens Rembrandt, Lefranc Bourgeois and 502 abt. (fading). You could settle for Talens Van Gogh or Amsterdam, but I wouldn`t dive under that if you want decent lifespan and colour quality. Washes and filters are an equally important part of your hard work and deserve equal quality products if you want to make it look good. So my advice is: don`t buy em. Walmart won`t give a damn if you don`t like their paint because it is not their core business.
Thivi11
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 12:13 PM UTC
Yeah thats just what I thought, needed to hear it though. I figured if anything the pigments would just be sub-par... just wasn't sure what made a good oil paint, and what the downfalls would be to a less expensive one.
Thanks for your help, greatly appreciated!
Thanks for your help, greatly appreciated!
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 01:11 PM UTC
The better (aka more expensive) paints have finer pigments. They cost more because it's more work to get the pigments ground and filtered.
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 02:03 PM UTC
Jared,
Years ago I bought a WalMart set like that thinking the same thing. The paint didn't dilute correctly in mineral spirits and I got raw umber "explosions" all over my model when I did the wash.
I bought a $3.99 set at Ocean State Job Lot that went straight from my bench to the garbage, they weren't even good enough for groundwork.
When you get to the last steps of your masterpiece, it just isn't worth taking chances and ruining something that's almost finished. Now I own nothing but Winsor & Newton oils, but I buy the Winton Series, which are next down from their top of the line. I thin them with odorless mineral spirits from Lowes for $10 a gallon and get excellent results. You don't have to spend 30 bucks a tube, but you should buy the good stuff.
Years ago I bought a WalMart set like that thinking the same thing. The paint didn't dilute correctly in mineral spirits and I got raw umber "explosions" all over my model when I did the wash.
I bought a $3.99 set at Ocean State Job Lot that went straight from my bench to the garbage, they weren't even good enough for groundwork.
When you get to the last steps of your masterpiece, it just isn't worth taking chances and ruining something that's almost finished. Now I own nothing but Winsor & Newton oils, but I buy the Winton Series, which are next down from their top of the line. I thin them with odorless mineral spirits from Lowes for $10 a gallon and get excellent results. You don't have to spend 30 bucks a tube, but you should buy the good stuff.
Thivi11
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 03:56 PM UTC
Well said, thanks for the responses!