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Posted: Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:25 AM UTC
A freind of mine was in command of LAV III equipped infantry company group in Eritrea/Ethiopia. One of the vehicles hit an A Tk mine while on patrol. All thecrew survived and the vehicle was still partially mobile after the blast. That can't be done in a tracked vehicle.
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Posted: Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 01:54 PM UTC
I definitely have to agree, the Stryker/LAV can do a whole lot of things. Personally my biggest worry about the LAV was taking a hit that penetrated the hull and trying to get out through the troop door...I liked being popped up a whole lot better, even with the exhaust hitting me in the face on those 130 degree days(aka STUPID HOT). Yes, even though the exhaust pipe faces down, gear sowed on the exterior of the hull does crazy things to airflow. We were hit with an IED that consisted of a willy-pete mortar round and four 155 shells daisy chained together, the LAV was directly beside one of the rounds when it went off, the thermal sight was wrecked, but the vehicle was still able to continue the mission and the crew walked away with one man slightly hurt.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 12:45 AM UTC
Personally I think the Styrker is a good system with limtations..Its not intended to replace the Bradely or Abrams and its Steping stone to the FCS that will be the replacement for the Bradely and Abrams. What the Stryker does now is give us a more mobile unit that can be transported quicker then an Abrams can and hold the line till they get there. Thats alot better then what the 82nd was in 1991 in Desert storm with Sheridans.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 09:37 AM UTC
Can anyone provide a bit more information on the mine plow on the Engineer Strykr? It looks a lot like the one on the Canadian LAV III Engineer vehicle.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 12:22 PM UTC
As for the ability to fit inside planes for transport...

Three 19-ton Stryker vehicles are secured inside a USAF C-17 Globemaster at Lieutenant Henry Post Army Airfield, Fort Sill, Ok., in preparation for the one hour and fifteen minute flight to Alexandria, La. Five C-17s from Altus Air Force Base flew 45 sorties from Fort Sill to Alexandria in 42 hours, transporting more than 130 vehicles that belong to 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment. (photo by Lieut. Col. Joseph Piek, Fort Lewis Public Affairs).

try this link:
http://www.lewis.army.mil/arrowheadlightning/photo_gallery/images/PICT0008.jpg

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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 01:59 PM UTC
That's impressive. I see now why the Canadian Air force wants some C17s. We have to hire Antonoc Air to do the same thing.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 02:01 PM UTC



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......... We were hit with an IED that consisted of a willy-pete mortar round and four 155 shells daisy chained together, the LAV was directly beside one of the rounds when it went off, the thermal sight was wrecked, but the vehicle was still able to continue the mission and the crew walked away with one man slightly hurt.


Howdy white4doc,

Thx for sharing that story with us..............that's just the kind of stuff I want to hear about our young men 'over there'!!!!!

Tread.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 02:04 PM UTC



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..... Thats alot better then what the 82nd was in 1991 in Desert storm with Sheridans.


We used Sheridans in Desert Storm!!!!!!..............Holy (expletive deleted)!

Didn't know......whew!

Tread.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2003 - 02:25 PM UTC

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..... Thats alot better then what the 82nd was in 1991 in Desert storm with Sheridans.


We used Sheridans in Desert Storm!!!!!!..............Holy (expletive deleted)!

Didn't know......whew!

Tread.


Errr Desert Shield

I haven't read any reports of the 82nd using the Sheridans in action...did the 101st or 82nd Have LAV-25 they where using also as an experment?

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Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 02:55 AM UTC

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..... Thats alot better then what the 82nd was in 1991 in Desert storm with Sheridans.


We used Sheridans in Desert Storm!!!!!!..............Holy (expletive deleted)!

Didn't know......whew!

Tread.


Errr Desert Shield

I haven't read any reports of the 82nd using the Sheridans in action...did the 101st or 82nd Have LAV-25 they where using also as an experment?


The Sheridan was used in both Desert Shield and Desert Storm. During the Desert Shield build up, 3/73 Armor turned in their original M551A1 for tanks refitted with M60A3 Tank Thermal Sights (TTS) by Anniston Army Depot personnel. These tanks were then designated M551A1(TTS). The armor battalion consisted of 56 Sheridans (4 tank companies with 14 tanks each), 14 LAV-25s (the battalion's scout platoon) and one LAV-R recovery vehicle.

There was one Shillelagh missile fired by a Sheridan in combat during Desert Storm into an Iraqi bunker. The vehicle was battle carrying the missile (missile loaded in the tube) when it came upon the bunker. Many Sheridans engaged in firefights, but none against any enemy armor.

The Army retired the Sheridan as a frontline combat vehicle in the mid 1990s. The OPFOR continued to use VIZMOD Sheridans as enemy vehicles at the NTC until replaced by the OSV or OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle. Basically an M113 with a modified Bradley turret (no TOW launcher).
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