Hey guys I'm jake I'm new to this form. I was wondering if there is any decals/references for a Syrian T55? Any info will help.
Thanks!
Jake
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Syrian t55 markings?
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2012 - 06:24 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2012 - 08:28 PM UTC
welcome jake have you read the t-55 thread yet it as a lot of great info if no drop a line to spidersformars he will help
dave
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2012 - 10:41 PM UTC
Hey Jakob
Syrian T-55 didn't have markings, on average they had just numbers written in arab
This site could helpful for you
http://tsahal.miniature.pagesperso-orange.fr/coloris.peinture.arabe.html
http://tsahal.miniature.pagesperso-orange.fr/marquage.arabe.html
cheers
Thanks Dave, I think I know something about russian stuff, I think I'm not an expert of arab armours
Syrian T-55 didn't have markings, on average they had just numbers written in arab
This site could helpful for you
http://tsahal.miniature.pagesperso-orange.fr/coloris.peinture.arabe.html
http://tsahal.miniature.pagesperso-orange.fr/marquage.arabe.html
cheers
Thanks Dave, I think I know something about russian stuff, I think I'm not an expert of arab armours
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 06:17 AM UTC
Thanks for the help! I might do a project doc once I get started!
Thanks again
-Jake
Thanks again
-Jake
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 05:12 AM UTC
Here some pics. If i find anything else I'll post here
http://www.waronline.org/blindage/index8j_2.htm
http://www.waronline.org/blindage/index8i_1.htm
http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/wars0/wars_09_2.htm
http://www.waronline.org/blindage/index8j_2.htm
http://www.waronline.org/blindage/index8i_1.htm
http://otvaga2004.narod.ru/otvaga2004/wars0/wars_09_2.htm
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2012 - 05:31 AM UTC
Hi Jake,
I can certainly help you. Before I upload photos though, what specific era is the tank you are interested in?
Six day War 1967: Syrian vehicles were painted PRIMARILY Russian armor Green. Some T-54/55s were seen daubed by hand with Golan heights mud for camouflage. Turrets of most tanks were decorated with Arabic martyr names.
Yom Kippur War 1973: Most T-54/55s were painted with a 3 tone Grey/ Green/ Sand camouflage of random splotches or wavy band patterns. However, some did appear in plain Russian armor green. Colored geometric patterns for brigade and division ID were usually painted on front glacis and rear hull plate either in a white rectangular outline or on a white rectangle background. Sometimes this appears on the fornt left fender. Turrets of some tanks had a LARGE white 3 digit Hindi-Arabic number on the turret sometimes outlined in a white stenciled rectangle. Some tanks had LARGE geometric shapes (circle/ square or triangle) painted on the turret side. ALL tanks had a smaller 5 digit individual number stenciled on the lower edge of the glacis plate and somewhere (does not appear to be any specific location) on the rear plate of the tank. Next to this number, in Arabic is the word "Al-Gaeish" (for "Army").
Lebanon war 1982: Camo pattern colors now could include brown to substitute for the grey. YKW colors can still apply to this conflict as well as basic green. Tactical brigade and division ID markings appear to have undergone a change as they are abit more complex with segmented rectangles and additional colors not seen in the previous war 5 years earlier. Turret markings again were USUALLY a white stenciled Arabic-Hindi number within a white rectangular outline. The 3 digit numbers were now pre-fixed with a "backslash" and an additional number, totaling 4 numbers on the turrets. T-62s appeared to keep the 3 digit system. (Note: most YKW T-62s with 3 digit turret numbers are in the 5XX range, whereas in the 82 lebanon war they mostly appear to be in the 7XX range.)
Modern/ present day 2012: Appears to be an unfathomable goulash of all of the above thrown together, however alot of T-55s are painted a bright shade of green with large random splotches of yellow-ochre.
Also be aware that their were many upgraded T-54s out on the battlefield as well.
For your reference, here is a Tamiya T-55 that I did a few years ago in Syrian Yom Kippur War scheme.
Cheers !:-)
Ed Okun
I can certainly help you. Before I upload photos though, what specific era is the tank you are interested in?
Six day War 1967: Syrian vehicles were painted PRIMARILY Russian armor Green. Some T-54/55s were seen daubed by hand with Golan heights mud for camouflage. Turrets of most tanks were decorated with Arabic martyr names.
Yom Kippur War 1973: Most T-54/55s were painted with a 3 tone Grey/ Green/ Sand camouflage of random splotches or wavy band patterns. However, some did appear in plain Russian armor green. Colored geometric patterns for brigade and division ID were usually painted on front glacis and rear hull plate either in a white rectangular outline or on a white rectangle background. Sometimes this appears on the fornt left fender. Turrets of some tanks had a LARGE white 3 digit Hindi-Arabic number on the turret sometimes outlined in a white stenciled rectangle. Some tanks had LARGE geometric shapes (circle/ square or triangle) painted on the turret side. ALL tanks had a smaller 5 digit individual number stenciled on the lower edge of the glacis plate and somewhere (does not appear to be any specific location) on the rear plate of the tank. Next to this number, in Arabic is the word "Al-Gaeish" (for "Army").
Lebanon war 1982: Camo pattern colors now could include brown to substitute for the grey. YKW colors can still apply to this conflict as well as basic green. Tactical brigade and division ID markings appear to have undergone a change as they are abit more complex with segmented rectangles and additional colors not seen in the previous war 5 years earlier. Turret markings again were USUALLY a white stenciled Arabic-Hindi number within a white rectangular outline. The 3 digit numbers were now pre-fixed with a "backslash" and an additional number, totaling 4 numbers on the turrets. T-62s appeared to keep the 3 digit system. (Note: most YKW T-62s with 3 digit turret numbers are in the 5XX range, whereas in the 82 lebanon war they mostly appear to be in the 7XX range.)
Modern/ present day 2012: Appears to be an unfathomable goulash of all of the above thrown together, however alot of T-55s are painted a bright shade of green with large random splotches of yellow-ochre.
Also be aware that their were many upgraded T-54s out on the battlefield as well.
For your reference, here is a Tamiya T-55 that I did a few years ago in Syrian Yom Kippur War scheme.
Cheers !:-)
Ed Okun
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2012 - 08:01 AM UTC
Hi there Ed,
I think I am going to do one from the Lebanese War,
It seems that mig makes a pretty nifty conversion in resin for just for such a tank!
I'm just looking for some decal references and some camo ideas.
Anything you can help me would be great!
Thanks.
-Jake
I think I am going to do one from the Lebanese War,
It seems that mig makes a pretty nifty conversion in resin for just for such a tank!
I'm just looking for some decal references and some camo ideas.
Anything you can help me would be great!
Thanks.
-Jake
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2012 - 02:25 PM UTC
Hi Jake,
OK. Here is a link to a model built by Mr. Jan-Willem Fischer of a Syrian T-55 from the first Lebanon war in 1982. It appeared on the IDF-In-Scale forum. Jan Willem did an outstanding job and there is really no better example to compare. A good standard to aim for.
http://www.idf-in-scale.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1045
Hope this helps you. Don't forget to show us your progress.
Best Regards,
Ed Okun
OK. Here is a link to a model built by Mr. Jan-Willem Fischer of a Syrian T-55 from the first Lebanon war in 1982. It appeared on the IDF-In-Scale forum. Jan Willem did an outstanding job and there is really no better example to compare. A good standard to aim for.
http://www.idf-in-scale.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1045
Hope this helps you. Don't forget to show us your progress.
Best Regards,
Ed Okun