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Need help with large scale diorama
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 02:09 PM UTC
Thanks for the email. I tried your process of creating walls for the casino that did t fare well I will try again soon and let you know the results I wanted to also I q if anyone has diagram of building a wooden bridge a pier
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 02:38 PM UTC
George

Any Updates or picture of progress so far??

Eugene
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 05:25 AM UTC
Thanks for the email. I am going to use magic water.I am told by experts that it wont dissolve any kind of paint etc. Another question...Have you ever used HANSA BRICKS to build large or small building. They are great I am trying to get inspiratio..do you know of anyone who uses the bricks
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 07:21 AM UTC
Hi,
A very interesting project, please post some pics, would Love to see this come together. Also, check out Trackpads site. Slimedog1 is doing a monster dio of Kharkov and has already completed the Factory Dio and is currently working on A church project to go with it.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 05:12 AM UTC
Hi Claude

Please see link for some pics..of my battle for Ouistreham.
https://www.facebook.com/gfwilliams3

I am building everything myself from scratch houses, street, water, gun emplacements but wanted to ask if you knew of anyone that does painted and assembled tanks and troops in 1:35 scale ..having problems finding a vendor..everything seems to be in 1:32 scale..I need between 100-300 troops and thats alot to paint

Thanks
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Posted: Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 02:16 PM UTC

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Hello

I am building a large scale diorama of the Battle for Ouistreham based on the movie from the Longest Day. I have a questions

1. I need confirmation on this.. if I am using 1/35 scale tanks and vehicles can I scratch buildings that would be about 16 tall 2 ft wide and 1 ft in depth.. would that look out of proportion with the figures etc ??? I have looked at Model Train Books and they really didnt have what I need.. any thoughts???
GW

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Posted: Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 08:38 PM UTC
Hi George

I suspect that your last post was a question and not a quote

My answer: Scale is scale!

The important part is not that the building is 2 feet wide and so, but if it's features (mainly the doors) are in the scale of the figure. Then you are good to go.

You are probably about to build the casino, isn't it?
Because of the size, the buildings are going to be the first eye catchers, good quality work is essential, other wise the viewer will not even want to look for the rest of the action.

Take a look again at some pictures from the Inner courtyard of my castle. The figures are walking in front of a 5 foot building and I think it still works.

Greets
Claude

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Posted: Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 10:42 PM UTC
George

A simple rule to follow when trying to figure out sizes in regards to scale 1/35:
Multiply the size you want by 12 then divide by scale
Example 60' tree 60x12=720 divide by 35 = 20.5" tall
same in 1/87 scale 60x12=720 divide by 87 = 8.25" tall

- John

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Posted: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 04:16 AM UTC
Hi ALL

I am doing a large scale military diorama and I have two questions..

1. I have a river that is running thru a town that is 7 ft ft by 6 inches wide. I have already applied ground cover and secured it with a woodlandland scenics adhesive..but I am concerned using Magic Water that the ground cover still might not hold..what other products can I use??

2. For the river I need to build a 14 ft long river embankment wall 7 ft on one side and 7 ft on the other.. I have used plaster of paris but it doesnt seem to work. The walls need to be possibly 1 inch thick and will be glued to the board..any other suggestions..resin perhaps??

Thanks
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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 01:34 AM UTC
I am curious as to why the plaster of paris didn't work?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 02:16 AM UTC
Sorry that is an old post..I am on track with scale etc..
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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 02:18 AM UTC
I poured the plaster into a wooden mold but it didnt hold..any suggestion as to mixture of what kind of mold I should use..
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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 04:12 AM UTC
use self hardening clay for your wall and scribb any pattern you want. Use wood or balsa or whatever you have to get the thickness and add the clay to the sides.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 - 04:44 AM UTC
Hi Claude

Thanks for your help..I use Das Modeling Clay for bunkers etc.. not sure if you have it Europe. I am going to try that as a sea wall and hopefully it wont leak thru..any other types of clay you could recommend
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 05:34 PM UTC
Hey guys,

I'm new here, but have been browsing through the forums on a daily basis for months now.

Just came across this thread and felt like I had to mention this: I don't know if it's still relevant, but the casino of Ouistreham as shown in "The Longest Day" had been blown up prior to D-Day by the Germans, and replaced with a bunker. Also, several houses had been blown up to clear the field of fire. The movie is highly inaccurate for that matter. Of course, if you want to make a dio of the movie (and not the actual battle), then it's a different story.

Would be happy to provide some reference, if any is needed.

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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2013 - 05:25 AM UTC
Hi

I am making a large scale military diorama. I need to build a 7 ft long sea wall and am using 1/32 and 1/30 scale figures etc.

I took bass wood and covered one side with foam bricks to show density..then added a few layers of plaster cloth and then a thin layer of flex paste..can I scribe into this faux bricks. I am going to us magic water for thelarge river..
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 - 05:30 AM UTC
Hi

Sorry for the late reply..When I saw the moviw I took it as fact but did some investigating and discovered the same thing you knew. The diorama is looseley based on the movie and I have takbe some liberties..But do you have any suggestion as to make ing cobblestones..I dont want to buy them or get them from a set..can you make them out of plaster/wall board.......

Thanks

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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 - 08:13 AM UTC
there are a couple options you can go for cobblestone. there is the plastistruct that makes sheets of textured styrene. a few of them match cobblestone, and may match what you are looking for.
I read somewhere, quite a while back, that you can also use a type of bean. i cannot remember the name to save my life, but looks decent when pressed into plaster.

You can get creative with making cobblestone. look for things that look like the scale rocks you want to use. while writing this, i know of a beach in my hometown that has many tiny tiny pebbles that would work perfect. they are all really thin rocks that mimic actual cobblestone in miniature size. browse the bean section at the store, you might be surprised
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Posted: Monday, September 23, 2013 - 08:48 AM UTC
HI

I re read your ideas on doing buildings. I am doing wall board and removing the paper and scribing in bricks etc. I like you idea how do you keep the sahpe of the wall on the pan and you pour the plaster,,
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 12:00 AM UTC
Hi All I know I have been asking alot of question about how to build a large scale diorama of the Battle for Ouistreham based on the Longest Day.. but not showing proof..I have some on my Facebook Page. But I will hopefully soon be posting the immense work I have completed.

Aside from the base which is 7ft long by 5ft wide.

I was was going to do it 1/35 scale but changed it to 1/32 and made the changes that need to be done ..I cant paint figures and tanks..I tried but my hands are begining to shake a bit..sign of age..so I bought Front Line/ Conte metal etc German soldiers/SS and 3 tanks.

I have the 90 percent of the terrain done with trees/weeds grass etc..Thanks to Hobby Bunker in Malden Mass.

I have about 5 sand bag gun emplacements all of which are hand made with Daz Clay..in one flak tower there is about 2000 sandbags..man I hands hurt after that was completed

I have 80 percent of the river basin done need to add debris and a few items..it also has a weathered dock. I also am planing converted UDT boats to german supply boats. For seawall I have have carved about 60 percent of them from again plasterboard..I removed the paper from oneside and carved in the stones etc. For water I have decided to use Magic water.

a 3 ft long damaged platerboard bridge that I hand carved

I am 70% done with the roads which instead of doing Verlinden bricks or Hansa bricks..I took plasterboard removed the paper and handcarved each individual cobbletones with street damage of course.

For houses I was going to use plaster board but as its mentioned in this blog..its fragile..so I have decided to try polystryrene foam board..seems firmer with stucco siding and then add interior etc...Thanks Nick from Crown Military for the idea.My original plan was to build 10 houses which included the casino but instead I changed it to 6 houses and casino.

See ya
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 01:50 AM UTC
Hi all I wanted to bring you up to date on my large scale diorama of the Battle for Ouistreham based on the movie the Longest Day.

I have started to craft the houses originally I was going to do them in plaster board but its not strong enough so I did a few examples in Balsa Foam that holds the ompression of a Blvd as you will see. I need to by in the US larger pieces 12*12*2but the pieces o have looked at our very expensive almost 100. A piece... any suggestions.

The base is done..want to add some grass and vegetation. The roads are done.

As for soldiers I need about 200 German soldiers and have about 20. For Allied soldiers meaning Free French Soldiers I really can't find them so I am using British Commandos.

Th water the base is done..still working on the walls. I will be icing Magic Water.... take a look on my
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 03:17 AM UTC

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there are a couple options you can go for cobblestone. there is the plastistruct that makes sheets of textured styrene. a few of them match cobblestone, and may match what you are looking for.
I read somewhere, quite a while back, that you can also use a type of bean. i cannot remember the name to save my life, but looks decent when pressed into plaster.


That would be split peas. You can get a bag full at a grocery store. The peas are round and already split in half - hence the name 'split peas' . glue them all flat side down, then fill in the spaces between with plaster, Celluclay, etc. The problem with using foodstuffs in dioramas is the possibility of a worm invasion .
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