Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Sd.Kfz.222 Build Log
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC
Thanks Rob, I often think that it would be nice to leave a model in brass and may do in the future but this one is going to be a DAK vehicle.

Part 2

Just looked at one of the images of the rear fender box, I have added a image of the lower half of the box only and not the top half attached to it. My mistake

Ammunition storage would have been important on the 222 and I have carefully considered my options and decided to overload her ready for battle. In Tunisia in 1943 she would have had lots of enemies to fight.

Lets start with the 20mm ammunition containers pictured below - these are for the 10 round magazine which was specifically designed for use in vehicles. 20 round magazines were available for AAA. These are Lionroar boxes





All can be opened and closed and locked with the little "0" shaped clasp. Many PE manufacturers make the 20mm ammunition containers, I will do a little review of the Griffon Model and Lionroar boxes later on in the update, but I am safe in saying that Lionroar is some of the finest PE that I have ever made and looks very acceptable.

Let's talk 20mm magazines, below are the magazines that I have assembled so far along with a spare 20mm round. I have some more Griffon Model magazines that arrived in the post today and I will do a full build of one in the next update and add them to the 222 when appropriate. All of the magazines that you see below are Lionroar but are nearly identical to the Griffon offerings which I added to my Panzer 2 just a few months ago. All are soldered.

One massive positive for the Griffon offerings is that they come with 20x20mm ammo rounds along with 10 spent cases. As I will illustrate this is of great importance.



Below are three images of different 10 round magazines but each is different -



When the magazines are fully assembled they are hollow inside and this is a mistake The magazine in the middle is unaltered. The real magazines would never have been hollow unless the follower spring had broken or the follower had fallen out making the magazine unserviceable and useless. This will have to change.

The magazine on the far right contains 2x20mm rounds soldered in place giving the apperance of a loaded magazine. The rounds would have been in a double stacked formation meaning that it would have been possible to see the second round.

If a magazine is empty the follower would have been visable as it would have been pushed up by the spring with only the feed lips stopping the thing from falling out. So you would have never seen a hollow magazine. The magazine on the left is my attempt at creating a follower out of lead; a process I have shown below using that spare 20mm round and some lead.



I have pressed the round into the lead making a mold of the casing and offered it up to a magazine





Trimmed the lead



and glued it into place



These are the fully loaded ammo containers



*******Griffon vs Lionroar

Below are two images of 2 20mm ammo containers, the one on the left being Griffon and the right Lionroar





The following is a brief review of both containers.

The Griffon Model container is inordinately more complex than the Lionroar equivalent. The problem with this is every time you try to solder brass that has already been soldered multiple times you risk catastrophic failure. The Griffon Model container took me about a day to complete while I made all four Lionroar containers in a roughly equivalent time. Nor is complexity necessarily making the Griffon containers better, the lid does not close properly and the "0" latch does not work. While the Griffon container is probably more historically accurate, I did feel like crushing it with a large rock at several points during its construction. Overall the Lionroar kit is superior.

The following image is from MissingLynx and shows a similar magazine and container set up. Please feel free to draw your own conclusions.



The next image is a bit random. It is of spent 20mm ammnition.



Let's talk about machine gun maintainence kits. This one is from Griffon Models L35A004 German ammo box kit which I had lying around and is superb.





The following are MG 34/42 ammunition cans for the 7.92mm round from the same Griffon kit, they would have contained 50 rounds each along with a gen2 Dragon ammo can for comparison.





Both containers are really nice. However the Dragon kit is a lot less versatile and not such good value for money. The rounds are slightly small, you have to glue the container in either the open or shut position and you have to buy the entire gen2 kit to get just one container as opposed to the 3 Griffon give you to make.

The following are a few rather random images of the build in its present state.



Front fender with flag thing.



The skeleton structure of the rear fenders.



And the last image is for just for scale.

Thanks for looking,

Steven







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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 11:57 AM UTC
Steven,

Man im kinda speachless right now. I cant find the words to describe what i just witnessed. Im not worthy!


Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 12:09 PM UTC
Ya this is a problem.

This is ridiculous. I think I am going to quit. All of these parts are so small! Your work is very clean. Nice photography too.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 12:20 PM UTC
I mean Steven, C'mon.

This is me.





And you come roll'n by.


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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 12:42 PM UTC
WOW! Mark that was what i was thinking and couldnt put into words! You nailed it!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 12:59 PM UTC
I agree...
We are not worthy... Steven is the Joe Satriani of PE

I feel like a Panzer I parked next to Leopard 2A6... a Trabant next to a Bugatti Veyron...
No more PE sets for me...
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 02:46 PM UTC
That is just sick...........wow is that awesome. hhhmmm that stuff would be perfect for a wreck.....um sorry gt carried away.
Looking forward to seeing MORE.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 08:38 PM UTC
Wow. Just wow. Blown away by your work
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 05:45 AM UTC
Impressive PE and soldering work, no question about it.
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 08:56 AM UTC
Hi everyone,

First of all I would like to thank you for your kind comments they really do motivate me to continue and increase my soldering skills. I am still learning and make lots of mistakes, just not ones that you will ever see !!!

I have been working on the 222's fenders which are not almost completed as you can see below and I have began to think about the main hull and started some prep work on it.

The first series of images focus on the rear fenders I have soldered all the components to the hull for strength and cut some lead sheeting to represent the mudguards, I did not like the uniformity of the kit brass.

I have damaged the second storage box intentionally I did not want this veteran 222 to look brand new. As you can also see I have added some plastic to the kit so no more soldering !









The lionroar kit only came supplied with one number plate to I made a replacement for the rear right fender from brass

The next image shows the impressive detail of the engine armour blinds, they were left exposed on early vehicles and could be penetrated by small arms fire so in my version, regretably, I will have to add armour over them obscuring their view. I have closed up all hull gaps with milliput.



The next image shows the wire protector over the Notek headlight. I drilled holes in the fender and soldered the components into it again for strength. It's not yet fully completed.



Now its test fit time, these PE components are for a different model

Front and rear fenders



With the stowage



and it fits





Thanks for looking

Steven

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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 04:20 PM UTC
Hi Steven,

Once again, im blown away at your skill level with the soldering and photoetch. it is just a pleasure to watch your work man! Well done.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 07:04 AM UTC
Thanks Gary

A brief update tonight looking at the Engine firewall bulkhead and the alterations that I have made to the Tristar Kit. There are no replacement parts contained within the Lionroar kit so its all my work

This is the unaltered bulkhead, its nothing like its supposed to be. The grills are plastic and too big and the rest is over simplified.



Stage 1 surgery of the kit part, removing the plastic grill and replacing it with a grill from a Tiger 1 that never quite made it to operational status. I removed the panels and replaced them with brass along with a set of hinges from an old Marder 3 Build that were unused.



Stage 2 adding the curtain across half of the grill and the handles that enable the crew to pull down the panels. The curtain is made from lead and is attached to the model via the brass U attachments that I created so no9t glued. This will aid painting at a later stage



Not too bad for two days work.

Remember the tristar kit has no engine details so my current modifications would show that, I have a cunning plan !

Thanks for looking

Steven
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 07:57 AM UTC
Baldrick Davies I suppose that it uses the same engine as the 223.
I noticed that the HobbyBoss kit has an engine an transmission, here are the instructions pics, I hope it helps !







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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 08:51 AM UTC
man what a piece of work! I second everyone else's accolades; truely impressive to say the least....

I love the 222; it was first 1:35 scale model back when I was a kid. that Lindberg kit was pretty rough but after building it I was never quite the same... Muuhahahaaaaa

I can't wait to see more of this..... and Im with Rob when he says it'd be a shame to paint it..

Chris
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 07:09 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments, John and Chris.

John you are correct, the SdKfz 223 was a specialist radio vehicle with a longer range gear than the 222. The vehicle had the same engine the 90hp Horch V8 but lacked the 20mm cannon to make space for the extra radio gear

Shame that the tristar kit is lacking that detail.

S
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:43 AM UTC
Hi everyone,

Quick update tonight, I have been working on the internals of my little 222 and adding on floor texture details. This was really a pig of a job and I started to thing nasty things about Tristar and their failure to include realistic floor texture in their model. This is not good enough in a modern kit.

The lionroar upgrade contains to internal details so again all me !



Engine fire wall inplace. I have added a radiator from an old model to represent the one missing from the kit, once painted it will look good.







I cut the aber etch pe into the appropriate size and glued it on to the floor, I have also glued the floor to the hull and added minor details.

I will have to provide more time remodelling the interior detail though I am afraid, the Tristar kit is not really super accurate

Thanks for looking

Steven
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 08:17 AM UTC
Steven, that is an insane amount of PE, did you even get to the part of the build that requires glue
You are a better man then me cause I would have not even attempted to to a 1/3 of the amount of that work, I hope you dont lose your eye sight
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 10:34 AM UTC
Hi Steven,

Fantastic work my friend! Your builds always look like it should be the box art for the PE set. If its not, it should be! Well done Steven.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 10:55 AM UTC
Woahh, look at those bendy bits on the floor, I can see why you say it was a bit of a pain. Just one thing, are you sure that's the right tread pattern. ..?

Seriously though, great work and obsessive behaviour !
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 07:09 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments Gary, Sal and Matthew

The floor pattern is accurate enough and took me an entire weekend to cut and glue in, so if its not quite right then its not going to be changed !

Its thinner than nornal Aber PE which is a blessing and a curse, its about as thick as a few layers of aluminium foil so easy enough to cut and fit but it very weak and tends to rip if overstressed

Then again the Tristar kit is slightly better than the Hobbyboss kit dispite not having a complete engine and floor texture detail.

Thanks

Steven
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 03:31 AM UTC
Hi Everyone,

Its been a while since the last update, my son was born on the 19th May and things have been a little hectic since. The delivery did not go well, mother and baby both nearly died, adding to the stress but the surgical team at our local NHS Hospital saved them both.



I have spend a few hours moddling when I can and hopefully he will settle down a bit soon allowing me to do more.

I have been focusing on the interior, the lower hull interior to be more exact and I have added the wheeles. Something missing from the interior set is the additional armour that was added to the 222 which I replicated out of Plastic card.

There is alot of stuff to fit into the interior and some of it is just white tacked into place so I can get some idea of where it all goes. The 222 contains the personal equipment of three men as well as personal weapons and ammo.









I have still to modify the vertical ammo can holders, the ones on the kit are not quite right

Thanks for looking

Steven

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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 03:50 AM UTC
Okay, I've seen enough!

DO NOT PAINT THIS AT ALL!!

You will hate yourself if you do.

Oh yeah, it looks nice. Gary used up all the words to describe it.

And congrats on the new addition!









~ Jeff
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 03:59 AM UTC
Congratulations to your wife and you for your son; thankfully there´s been a happy end (of the beginning).
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 05:59 AM UTC
Congrats to you on the birth of your son , Steven, he looks very cute in the photo, all calm now. .. make sure you look after him and his mum well!

222 looks good too, think you should paint it though. ..
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 06:21 AM UTC
Steven,

Congradulations on your new baby boy, and i wish great health to baby, mom, and you.

Now, since you now have a new hobby (Being a father) that does not give you permission to glue on photoetch. Besides, i dont think anyone has come out with a PE upgrade for new borns. Oh, and your 222 looks great!

Well done! On both accounts.

Gary