AFV Painting & Weathering
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
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Best Paint for Whitewash???
retiredyank
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2012 - 12:04 AM UTC
I plan on using the hairspray technique, for a white-wash. My question is what brand of paint yeilds the best results? I am doing a coat of Future, then two - three coats of hairspray.
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2012 - 12:25 AM UTC
Tamiya seems to be a favorite
retiredyank
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2012 - 02:25 AM UTC
I used Tamiya on my last attempt and the layer under the hairspray separated from the plastic. Perhaps I "scrubbed" too hard?
panzerbob01
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2012 - 02:34 AM UTC
Matt;
IF you are doing the hairspray and plan on wearing or scrubbing the white off - both the Tamiya or the Testors ModelMaster acryls do well, in my experience.
But... IF your base camo is in enamel, you have a much quicker and simpler route available to create worn and scoured-looking white-wash: Just let that base dry and cure well - no need for hairspray nor for Future! Apply the white acryls and then pretty soon attack the still soft / uncured acryl coat with a moistened kitchen scrubber pad or a small brush dipped into very diluted alcohol (for those smaller areas you want to hit without disturbing details) and wear and scrub it away as you want! The acryl coat will scrub off in both "flaking fashion" and in faded-off gradual wearing. Varying the alcohol will vary the solution or attack properties. Varying the dry-time allowed the acryl coat before scrubbing will also affect what things you can best get (this is also true for the "over hair spray and Future" approach).
Attached below is a pic of a Horch DAK gun-truck I did last year using the "acryls (sand, in this case) applied over cured enamel coat and then gently scrubbed off to show wear and feathering" technique. While not whitewash, the wear effect is the same - look around the doors, etc.
PS: The Horch was my first-ever try at doing anything like this sort of weathering and wearing-away of an outer coat to reveal the under-layers.
Cheers!
Bob
IF you are doing the hairspray and plan on wearing or scrubbing the white off - both the Tamiya or the Testors ModelMaster acryls do well, in my experience.
But... IF your base camo is in enamel, you have a much quicker and simpler route available to create worn and scoured-looking white-wash: Just let that base dry and cure well - no need for hairspray nor for Future! Apply the white acryls and then pretty soon attack the still soft / uncured acryl coat with a moistened kitchen scrubber pad or a small brush dipped into very diluted alcohol (for those smaller areas you want to hit without disturbing details) and wear and scrub it away as you want! The acryl coat will scrub off in both "flaking fashion" and in faded-off gradual wearing. Varying the alcohol will vary the solution or attack properties. Varying the dry-time allowed the acryl coat before scrubbing will also affect what things you can best get (this is also true for the "over hair spray and Future" approach).
Attached below is a pic of a Horch DAK gun-truck I did last year using the "acryls (sand, in this case) applied over cured enamel coat and then gently scrubbed off to show wear and feathering" technique. While not whitewash, the wear effect is the same - look around the doors, etc.
PS: The Horch was my first-ever try at doing anything like this sort of weathering and wearing-away of an outer coat to reveal the under-layers.
Cheers!
Bob
retiredyank
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2012 - 04:10 AM UTC
Bob: I think I will give your technique a try. I can spray MM dull cote over the entire model and won't apply the coat of future.
panzerbob01
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Posted: Friday, March 09, 2012 - 09:48 AM UTC
Matt;
OK - I'm guessing from this that you have a base-coat of acryls... IF you are thinking of adding a dull-coat enamel layer.
Do let that dull-coat layer fully-harden and cure. Maybe 3 - 4 days at least - before you apply and then soon thereafter scrub away at your acryl WW layer. This would be the same advice for hairspray or acryl over that Future layer - the Future becomes the base layer and needs to be fully-hardened and cured before applying hairspray (or acrylic directly) over it.
Take it a step at a time. Good Luck and looking forward to seeing some pic of the outcome soon!
Bob
OK - I'm guessing from this that you have a base-coat of acryls... IF you are thinking of adding a dull-coat enamel layer.
Do let that dull-coat layer fully-harden and cure. Maybe 3 - 4 days at least - before you apply and then soon thereafter scrub away at your acryl WW layer. This would be the same advice for hairspray or acryl over that Future layer - the Future becomes the base layer and needs to be fully-hardened and cured before applying hairspray (or acrylic directly) over it.
Take it a step at a time. Good Luck and looking forward to seeing some pic of the outcome soon!
Bob