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Help needed with 18ton Famo wheels
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 08:44 PM UTC
Hey guys .. In the nearish future i will be building a dio for a customer featuring a 18ton Famo towing a 128mm A/T gun .
Now tonight i found these replacement wheels on Luckymodel from Real Model .
Heres the links for the wheels i am talking about .
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=RM-A35047
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=RM-A35048
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=RM-A35049

Now here's where i need the help .. were these tires ever fitted to the Famo in German service or were they fitted to an English version of this vehicle.
I asked this cause the way it is written . them being called this WHEELS for FAMO english model .

Any help here would be greatly appreciated .

Phill
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - 11:22 PM UTC
Don't think iv ever seen a German Famo with that type of tread on there tires.or maybe captured Famos wheels were changed by the allies and reused.

http://www.tankworkshop.com/Shop/agora.cgi?cart_id=247.13623&p_id=TWS2058&xm=on
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 03:20 AM UTC
Phil, I know nothing about an English version, but looking at literally scores of period photos, I did not see a single one with any of those tread patterns. Frenchy may be able to come up with something, but the standard pattern is the "diamond" one found on many other Wehrmacht halftracks.
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 04:30 AM UTC

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Frenchy may be able to come up with something, but the standard pattern is the "diamond" one found on many other Wehrmacht halftracks.



I had anticipated that Bill Unfortunately I've searched high and low for such pics... in vain.
Maybe british tires were fitted to vehicles tested after capture ?

Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 04:43 AM UTC

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Maybe british tires were fitted to vehicles tested after capture ?

Frenchy


Frenchy, I am always thinking of you looking over my shoulder when I post, LOL.

The Allies liked German halftracks, and I've seen numerous photos of vehicles in captured service (not testing, actual work in the field). I'm somewhat skeptical Brits (or anyone) would come up with alternate tires/tyres for them, unless there was a British vehicle whose tires would fit.

Otherwise, unless they could swap tires from another vehicle or come up with a store of them, I presume the usual option would obtain:

Throw the damned thing away.

I remember as a young man going out on a Navy destroyer and watching them heave a very large (and presumably expensive) radio set overboard. When I asked about that, they replied that it was easier to requisition a new one than get parts for repairing one. And if they'd saved the old set as a back-up, they could've been court-martialed for misappropriation of government property.
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 05:56 AM UTC
On a side note, the pictured German-looking half-track (not a Famo ) you can see at the bottom of this page is apparently fitted with British-looking tires...

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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 07:47 AM UTC
It's too late to edit my last post, but in fact the pictured half-track is a British prototype, based on a captured SdKfz 7... (should have read the article more carefully before posting )

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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 08:33 AM UTC
Hi Phill, if you're after replacement wheels for the Sd.Kfz.9 get the Panzerart ones, they're excellent. For about $10-$12NZD you get both front wheels and the spare.
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 11:36 AM UTC
Gentlemen all i can say is thanks a heap for the help ,,karl ya i was thinking the same sort of thing ,,Bill i am in total agreement with you when it comes to trying to find a pic ,,i found a total of one pic with a famo with different tires and these weren't even close to the ones from lucky model , Frenchy is right on the money with that British prototype ..its a Bedford BT Traclat built by Vauxhall and 6 were built ,intended as a hauler for the 25 pdr guns .
My porblem with the tires is that these appear huge in set 2 ,very large cross section and look booty as hell ..so in other words cool but they aint much point if they were never used by the Germans.
Might turn this dio into a slight what if . ya know like early 46 ,not idea at present to be honest.
Dean thanks a heap for that mate ,,these i am going to check out for sure

Phill
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 05:52 PM UTC
What about asking Miloslav for some reference stuff ?

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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 06:01 PM UTC
Damn!! Frenchy mate thats a brilliant idea i keep forgetting about asking the man himself ,that should make life a hell of a lot easier .

Cheers mate

Phill
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 06:08 PM UTC
Hi all,
This is a good idea. Wheels I made ​​about twelve years ago to order the German company NMC. they gave me reference photos Famo with these tires, which captured Afrika Korps. I think some of the photos were from regular publication.
Surely this is not fiction, because science fiction category in its production have not.
Just because someone does not know these tires does not mean that it is fiction.
Miloslav
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Posted: Friday, March 16, 2012 - 02:32 AM UTC
Phill,

Here is a link to an sdanh 116 trailer that has this pattern of tires mounted. http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/cross-search/search/_1331908010/?search[page]=3
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Posted: Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 10:15 PM UTC
Sam i tryed the link and its not working ..no idea why ..its to techy for me

Miloslav ,, Mate you made my customers day when i told him about your post .. he's pretty damn happy now about being able to fit those wheels .. cheers buddy

Phill
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Posted: Monday, March 19, 2012 - 03:31 AM UTC
Phill,

Use the link & in the search box type in anhanger. The pics are on page 3. Don't know why it is not linking to the right page.

Sam
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Posted: Monday, March 19, 2012 - 09:03 AM UTC
Sam ,, got it mate and yeah those are the same tires alright,they look pretty damn good on the trailer too

Phill
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Posted: Monday, March 19, 2012 - 09:33 AM UTC
Talking about British tires fitted to the Sd.Ah 116 trailer, I've read that the Scamell R100 tires were the same size as the German tires (13.50x20), and that "it is reasonable to assume that captured stocks were used." (from Allied-Axis #3)

Frenchy
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