Chaps,
Forgive me if this has been asked before, and God knows even if viable, it will be some time before I get around to attempting a build, but is it possible to construct the Czech post war APC - the OT 810 - from say, the Tamiya Sd Kfz 251 Ausf D model? I also appreciate that it is technically NOT a Russian/Sov vehicle, but would make for an interesting addition to any Warsaw Pact collection, such as I hanker after (!)
I have a suspicion that only the running gear would be viable, not least as the angles all look different, and I am no great scratch builder, but I would be interested in the option of producing one.
Again, I am sure this has been asked before so apologies in advance to those who might weary of this, but on the other hand, I envisage a spectacularly different model on the display table, not least if the kit was populated by figures in the striking "Banana" camouflage.
Thanks in advance, not least for your forbearance if this has been all done before.
Regards,
Brian
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 11:46 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 05:35 PM UTC
I think this site could help you a lot
http://www.sdkfz251.com/
here some other useful links
http://www.brdm2.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/pasova-obrnena-vozidla-a-jejich-varianty/polopasovy-obrneny-transporter-ot-810/
http://www.primeportal.net/apc/moritz_schulze/ot-810/
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/37895
http://www.vojenskatechnika.sk/ot810/ot810_color.htm
http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/half-full-track/sd-kfz-251-1-abcd/
Sd kfz 251:
cheers
http://www.sdkfz251.com/
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The Czech OT-810, cousin of the SdKfz 251
The Czech army, desiring an army personnel carrier (the Soviets had none) utilized captured and abandoned
German SdKfz 251s for their post-war armed forces. Eventually these left over vehicles wore out and a replacement
vehicle, the OT-810 was created to replace it, utilizing a similar design and constructed by Tatra and Skoda, both of
whom were involved in the original construction of Wehrmacht SdKfz 251s. Approximately 2,400 OT-810s were built
and used by the Czech armed forces well into the 1980s. It is said that several hundred survive today around the
globe, most being destroyed due to disarmament agreements with NATO.
The OT-810 is very similar in size, weight, and performance to the SdKfz 251. The biggest differences was the use of
an eight cyl. Tatra air cooled diesel engine that replaced the underpowered 6 cyl. German Maybach gas engine. The
hood of the OT-810 is somewhat larger to accommodate the larger engine. The Czechs also enclosed the OT-810
with hatches, partially to help protect the occupants from shrapnel and somewhat from exposure to radiation and
gas.
here some other useful links
http://www.brdm2.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/pasova-obrnena-vozidla-a-jejich-varianty/polopasovy-obrneny-transporter-ot-810/
http://www.primeportal.net/apc/moritz_schulze/ot-810/
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/37895
http://www.vojenskatechnika.sk/ot810/ot810_color.htm
http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/half-full-track/sd-kfz-251-1-abcd/
Sd kfz 251:
cheers
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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 - 11:58 PM UTC
Mauro,
Many thanks for your very comprehensive reply; has anyone actually tackled this?
As I say, I am no great scratchbuilder and it would be nice to know of any pitfalls or difficulties, or, is it deceptive and involve more scratchbuilding than I am (probabaly) capable of?!
Thanks again,
Brian
Many thanks for your very comprehensive reply; has anyone actually tackled this?
As I say, I am no great scratchbuilder and it would be nice to know of any pitfalls or difficulties, or, is it deceptive and involve more scratchbuilding than I am (probabaly) capable of?!
Thanks again,
Brian
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Posted: Friday, March 16, 2012 - 09:04 PM UTC
It would be necessary to find some eastern modeller forums and see if someone has already done a scratch build job. For exemple try to look here
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewforum.php?f=58
anyway here some other references
Some pics of the user manual
http://www.dolin.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/FOTO-1946---2005/ot-810---dobovy-manual/
a thread with lots of pics and links
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=327&t=1394&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
other walkarounds
http://www.dolin.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/detail-set/ot-810
http://www.vojenskatechnika.sk/ot810/ot810_album.htm
http://apolo.koprivnice.org/walkarounds/OT-810/OT-810.htm
http://www.militaryvehicles.cz/index3.php?sek=02-03&lang=cz
http://www.militaryvehicles.cz/index3.php?sek=200-13&lang=cz.
That could be the right occasion to make your first extensive scratch job. If you are worried to waste too money in tamiya kit, you could start from the cheap Zvezda one.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/4255
That isn't accurate, but all in all you have to use it only as a base
cheers
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewforum.php?f=58
anyway here some other references
Some pics of the user manual
http://www.dolin.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/FOTO-1946---2005/ot-810---dobovy-manual/
a thread with lots of pics and links
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=327&t=1394&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
other walkarounds
http://www.dolin.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/detail-set/ot-810
http://www.vojenskatechnika.sk/ot810/ot810_album.htm
http://apolo.koprivnice.org/walkarounds/OT-810/OT-810.htm
http://www.militaryvehicles.cz/index3.php?sek=02-03&lang=cz
http://www.militaryvehicles.cz/index3.php?sek=200-13&lang=cz.
That could be the right occasion to make your first extensive scratch job. If you are worried to waste too money in tamiya kit, you could start from the cheap Zvezda one.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/4255
That isn't accurate, but all in all you have to use it only as a base
cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 08:58 AM UTC
Mauro,
Many thanks again - and sorry for the delay in replying. This may be a more complicated project than I'd first imagined, but I'll get busy and see what some other clubs may have come up with.
Regards,
Brian
Many thanks again - and sorry for the delay in replying. This may be a more complicated project than I'd first imagined, but I'll get busy and see what some other clubs may have come up with.
Regards,
Brian
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 09:49 AM UTC
Don't worry!
If I found some reference or thread which can help you, I'll let you know
Cheers
If I found some reference or thread which can help you, I'll let you know
Cheers