Hey
So have any one a tryed using oils ?? Is this a good sett to start whit ?? http://migproductionswebshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_108&products_id=529
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royalM
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 11:39 AM UTC
SdAufKla
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 01:13 PM UTC
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Hey
So have any one a tryed using oils ?? Is this a good sett to start whit ?? http://migproductionswebshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_108&products_id=529
Mathias,
If you want to just try some oils before you spend a lot of money, go down to the nearest art supply (or general crafts) store and get a couple tubes of regular artist oil paints.
If you don't already have some on hand, get a can of ordinary mineral spirits for use as a thinner / brush cleaner.
I'd suggest (depending on the model colors) any or all of these colors:
Raw Umber - a good dark brown useful for washes replicating dirt and mud. This color works well over heavy mud and earth textures as a dark wash.
Burnt Sienna and Raw Sienna - two good "yellow" and "red" rust colors that work well for rust colored washes and rain streaks.
Payne's Gray - a good, very dark charcol gray (less intense and more useful than black) that is good for pin washes and oil and fuel spills and streaks.
If you just want to experiment with pin washes and oil / fuel spills and streaks, just get the Payne's Gray. The same for the other colors - just get the ones you need for the types of effects you want to try.
All of the washes and rust streaks in these photos were done with the four colors above:
Both of these models have complete build blogs here on Armorama if you want more info, but all of the oil paints that I use for both weathering and figure painting are just the same ones that you can buy in any art supply store. Nothing special is required, really.
HTH,
Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 06:52 PM UTC
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Is this a good sett to start whit ??
In a word ... YES. You can go down to your local art shop, but you will not get oil colours of this quality for that price. One tube of Windsor & Newton or Rembrant oils, will cost more than those six together. I have quite a few MIG oil colours, and when one does a quality versus price comparison, you will have problems finding any that can comnpare.
I have no connections with MIG or any of his companies, but this is one item I will recommend without reservation. Very fine pigments ... ideal for washes and weathering ... but can also be used for figures. If the cost of art supplies is in line wth everything else in Norway ... this price is excellent. You wont get anything as good as these, for that price.
Mig_Jimenez
La Rioja, Spain / España
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 07:59 PM UTC
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I have no connections with MIG or any of his companies
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Opsss....I am sorry to interrupt this tread, but I just wanted clarify that Mig Productions is not my company anymore since 3 YEARS ago and now I have no modelling company. I just do all my ideas and works for AK Interactive!!!
I am shock because still today many people think I own both companies!
THank you very much.
Mig Jimenez
royalM
Vestfold, Norway
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 09:34 PM UTC
tnx all ! Yeah stuff in Norway cost alot of Money. So the
price is no problem. Do i still use filters ? And washes ?
Or are oils used insted ?
price is no problem. Do i still use filters ? And washes ?
Or are oils used insted ?
Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 - 03:59 AM UTC
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I am shock because still today many people think I own both companies!
Hi Mig
No need to get shocked as there wasn´t anything implied. The initial question was to do with the actual oil paints, not the owner of the products. I honestly never even considered who the owner was when answering the initial question ... just meant I had no connection with you or the companies you have been involved with ... impartial opinion and all that. In my opinion its still a quality brand of oil paints regardless of who owns it today.
collin26
Connecticut, United States
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Posted: Friday, April 06, 2012 - 12:27 AM UTC
Mathias,
You can use oils to create washes & filters but nothing is exclusive! You can use an acrylic or enamel wash or filter & oils togehter on the same subject! You will find that oils are realy good for some tasks & simply not for others. You will get excelent color from oils but the dry time can be a handicap.
I personaly only use oils for small filters on a small specific area of a model. For example, a small portion of a specific hatch....instead of the entire top surface. This will enable you to be very specific in color on a small area.
You can use oils to create washes & filters but nothing is exclusive! You can use an acrylic or enamel wash or filter & oils togehter on the same subject! You will find that oils are realy good for some tasks & simply not for others. You will get excelent color from oils but the dry time can be a handicap.
I personaly only use oils for small filters on a small specific area of a model. For example, a small portion of a specific hatch....instead of the entire top surface. This will enable you to be very specific in color on a small area.
royalM
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Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 10:07 AM UTC
tnx for all the replies Great help!
ScaleArmorBuilder
Virginia, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 05:48 AM UTC
I use Turpenoid for all my oil washes. Low odor and easy on enamel base coats.
Ive used both Mig 502 oils and Newton/Windsor oils for weathering. The Mig oils have a much finer pigment as noted above. Other companies pigments get spotty when thinned down to a light wash. I also recomend black oil paint. I use it for panel lines and oil spots.
Ive used both Mig 502 oils and Newton/Windsor oils for weathering. The Mig oils have a much finer pigment as noted above. Other companies pigments get spotty when thinned down to a light wash. I also recomend black oil paint. I use it for panel lines and oil spots.