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WW1 - Wish list/Discussion
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 09:11 AM UTC

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I would like to see something like this.



One of these days maybe.

Randy



Well what about this kit?


And they have som more.
http://www.m-model.pl/glownaeng.html

Cheers
VintageRPM
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 10:03 AM UTC
I'll chime in with two ideas in 1/35. One is to second the Schneider tank. The second would be a German A7V crew (or at least the commander) and infantry riding on the tank. I have one of those Tauro kits to build.
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 03:35 PM UTC
Hi Alan,
I too would like to see more things available for WWI, given that the centennial is fast approaching. Vehicles are fine, but the horse was ubiquitous. Nearly all field artillery close to the front was horse drawn, and ammunition and supplies were carried forward on mules.
I'd like to see a greater variety of figures too: - French, French colonials, Foreign Legion, British Commonwealth, Aussies, Indians, Canadians. Not just standing in trenches but laying barbed wire, stringing field telephone wire, stretcher bearers, that sort of activity.
Equipment too. We see lots of Vickers and Lewis guns, but rarely a Hotchkiss, and never the wretched Chauchat machine rifle supplied by the French to US forces. Plenty of Lee-Enfields but never a Canadian Ross, superbly accurate but useless in the mud.
Someone suggested an observation balloon. It might be hard to reproduce that at 1/35, but it could be done with the ground crew, complete with winch.
And going really far out, I'd love to lay my hands on a model of the Paris Gun! Lots to think about.
Cheers!
Dick
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 03:54 PM UTC
People clamouring for tanks..lol. In reality as we all know WW1 was an infantry/artillery war. Armour played a very small part of it due to the fact that a)They'd only just been invented (b)They were never used in massive numbers (c) they were essentially just self propelled guns which sqaushed barbed wire.

I'd like to see lots of infantry which can be adapted (multi pose like),artillery pieces with crews, Vickers crews, Maxim crews etc. Just my thoughts.
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 09:02 PM UTC

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People clamouring for tanks..lol. In reality as we all know WW1 was an infantry/artillery war. Armour played a very small part of it due to the fact that a)They'd only just been invented (b)They were never used in massive numbers (c) they were essentially just self propelled guns which sqaushed barbed wire...



And that somehow makes the subject of WWI armor laughable?

Good luck wishing for the figures without the AFV's (as crude and worthless as you seem to believe). The major plastic kit manufacturers produce the overwhelming number of their figure kits as accessories for armor.

Without the armor and other vehicles (mostly AFV's), there will be no wide spread demand for WWI figures or much of anything else WWI in 1/35 scale. You'll be stuck with pretty much what you have now - a few "figure collector" scale (1/32-54mm) figures and accessories, often as not stand-alone figures in white metal.

On the other hand, the market for WWI AFV kits, if developed by some forward looking major kit maker will lead to additional WWI kit-products, like figures and arty.

Good luck wishing for the infantry figures without the AFV kits.
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2012 - 10:32 PM UTC
Hi Karl,

I'd tend to agree with Mike here, new developments in WW1 armour and artillery would lead to new figure sets. Armour is what mainly drives the 1/35 scale market, figures are seen as accessories, so with out new armour, trucks and guns new figures would be unlikely, not impossible but unlikely.

I'm strongly in favour of new WW1 armour kits especially with internal detail. WW1 saw the birth of the tank and I'd love to model detailed plastic kits covering that period but don't really want to fight with the current offerings.

I agree that this conflict was mainly an infantry/artillery conflict but from 1917 onwards armour made an increasing appearance across the battlefield.

Another key element in WW1 was the railways, especially the small scale type used to ferry troops and ammunition to the front.

I've spent the last couple of weeks trawelling through the Australian WW1 archive and the range of possible setting is just vast. From the figure point of view more British, Frence and Germans with an additional range of Commonwealth heads and the possibilities are endless and those are only the key players.

Although the Americans came to the war late on, again lots of possibilities there.

The driving factor though will most probably be new new detailed armour and artillery in 1.35 scale.

Thanks for the input guys.

Al
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 03:20 AM UTC
Here's an idea for an experiment:

If one of the objects of this thread has been to gauge the interest and potential demand for WWI kits and figures, what would the response be if this was moved or had been started in the regular AFV forum vice the Figures forum?

I think right now there have been fewer than 600 hits on this thread, but it's ticked over 2 pages of replies. Very respectable activity for the Figures forum. But hardly enough interest to suggest to a major plastic kit maker that they should start cutting molds for WWI subjects.

However, methinks that had this same thread been started in the regular AFV forum, it would have garnered several thousand hits already and perhaps be around three or four pages long and perhaps (probably, actually) even more. I could see such a thread going on for a couple of weeks with a hit count up in the 10's of thousands.

I say this because I can't think of a single AFV kit "wish list" that I've seen over the past couple of years that didn't have at least one WWI subject on it. AFV modelers have been expressing increased interest and demand in WWI AFV kits for some time now, and the time is ripe, IMO, for one of the major kit makers to respond.

(Actually, I'm surprised that such low hanging fruit hasn't already been plucked!)

Putting a thread of this kind in the AFV Forums would, I believe, make the potential demand for WWI AFV subjects (and by extension, other WWI army-subjects) much clearer and more visible to other armor modelers and the kit makers.

Just look at the "Great War" campaigne thread which now has almost 19,000 hits. Looking at the number of hits in one of the campaigns is a pretty good way to guage the general interest in a particular subject area, but even then most of the campaigns are not followed by a majority of the visitors here, I think.

This leads me to expect that this thread (or one similar) in the AFV Forums would have really attracted a lot more attention and participation than it has here, and prove the point that wide spread demand exists for state-of-the-art WWI AFV kits.
AlanL
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 05:35 AM UTC
Hi Mike,

That's quite possible, I did consider starting it in the AFV Forum, but choose figures as that's a vast empty area and it was what I was thinking about at the time and the reason I started it as a blog rather then a normal thread.

I can ask one of the Moderators to move it if you like.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 09:28 AM UTC

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Well what about this kit?





Thank you Janne, I didn't know about that one either. I need to get out more!!

Thanks again. I do appreciate it.

Randy
AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 03:17 AM UTC
Yip, looks like a ncie kit.

Al
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 04:26 AM UTC
Nice that there are a FEW kits around, but you have to do endless searching and then get a small loan to be able to afford one. What I am looking for is for the main model companies to produce affordable vehicles and figures that are readily available at the usual hobby distributers and in hobby shops. There is already enough WW-2 Stuff out there , especially Germans. It is about time they do something with WW-1 .
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