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machinegunpit with sandbags
Baldy
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Drenthe, Netherlands
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 06:47 PM UTC
I'm trying to make a machinegunpit wconstructed of wood and sandbags. I searched the web for photos but couldnt find anything that was good enough. Can you help me out? Thanks!

Baldy
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:59 AM UTC
I didnt find a whole lot but aleast a place to start...
http://www.thevietnam-database.co.uk/Forts/Machinegun.htm
nato308
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Joined: October 23, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 12:38 AM UTC
A good source of inspiration, go out and rent yourself some good old war films, there are a number of them that would be good sources. Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, The Logest Day, Band of Brothers, are just a few. Have you thought about what materials you will be using for the sandbags? Personally I have tried many ways this way can be frustrating at first but with some practice it works well. The best and most realistic by far is using a tube (to scale it escapes me at the moment as to what size I think it was about 3/8th), kleenex, VERY fine sand, and senic woodlands ground cover adhesive. Cut the kleenex into long strips, wrap it around the brass tube and glue the seam length wise and glue one end. Use a small funnel to pour the sand through filling the "bag" to a desired length tie off with very fine wire and then cut just above the wire. Repeat until you have the desired amount. When you are ready to create the sandbag pit, get a plastic bowl and mix your senics adhesive and your desired paint color together and dip the 'bags" in it with twezers taking care not to rip the 'bags" as they are very fragile when wet. Lay them on your base overlapping (like a brick wall)even rotating lengthwise as well. they should be at least two or three bags thick. Lay to the desired shape. When they are dry they will be rock hard, so as they dry poke with an xacto to create damage if desired. Dry brush highlights.
Plasticbattle
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Donegal, Ireland
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Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 02:42 AM UTC
Check out the sandbag making article on Roadkills home page under the tips section.
Roadkills site!

Great results can be got easy by using this milliput method,
I used it for the first time last friday and am very pleased with the results!
Check this out ...... and if you like it .. try Roadkills method ... almost foolproof!

Hope this helps!
kkeefe
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Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 03:00 AM UTC
I used a little bit of balsa wood and hand-made sandbags for this mortar pit. It might give you some ideas...



Tap the link below and read all about the material that I used for the bags.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 03:26 AM UTC
I bow in your presence Mr Keefe. Those sandbags are unbelievable. I guess I should have taken the extra care and made the tied ends as well, and I can see the effort has paid off ... immensely!!! I really like how simulated the dust up over them as well. I visited your site and saved the page for the next time. Amazing!
kkeefe
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Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 05:12 AM UTC
I ain't no big deal, but I do thank you for your kind words.
Bren
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 06:45 PM UTC
KKeefe, those sandbags are unbelievable, the time the effort the..... WOW!.
And those figures are life-like not to mention the stock of the firearm.

Baldy I think you got the best answer you could have asked for!
Baldy
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2003 - 07:11 AM UTC
thanks for your help ! Lets go for it!
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