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Knocked outT-80BV Chechnya
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 08:30 AM UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-1GmfHjZBE
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 08:51 AM UTC
Great find, thank You for posting
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 09:00 AM UTC
great reference, thanks for sharing..

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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 09:24 AM UTC
Interesting indeed, thanks for sharing

Have you noticed that the turret has been burnt but Era armour didn't expolde?

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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC
CC,

I paid close attentio to that transmission part in the rear of the T-80. One of many things wrong with the DML/Zvesda.
I watched you correct that feature while I painted mine. LOL

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John
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 10:30 PM UTC
Very interesting stuff, a great find John.
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 10:41 PM UTC
That was a very cool vid ..that BTR looked quite good from one side ..the other ..well

Mauro .. the blocks didn't explode mate because plastic explosive will not go bang even if its on fire ..it melts . for it to explode it needs a huge thump behind it ..fire don't even come close '

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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 10:58 PM UTC

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Interesting indeed, thanks for sharing

Have you noticed that the turret has been burnt but Era armour didn't expolde?

Cheers



Probably because the blocks were just empty, I read in a Russian book that many of the tanks went into combat with the ERA blocks fitted, but no explosive inserts.
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 - 02:24 AM UTC
That's what I suspected Rob, but I didn't have any reference which could support my guess

So, thanks a lot indeed.
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 - 02:30 AM UTC

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That was a very cool vid ..that BTR looked quite good from one side ..the other ..well

Mauro .. the blocks didn't explode mate because plastic explosive will not go bang even if its on fire ..it melts . for it to explode it needs a huge thump behind it ..fire don't even come close '

Phill



Phil I'm not an expolosive expert, but it seems to me quite strange that it couldn't explode if it is burnt... I tend to agree with Rob. But of course I might be wrong

UPDATE: Now I'm reading an article which says that actually plastic explosives (as C4) burns slowly like a piece of wood and doesn't explode...so both teories could be possible...
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 - 03:27 AM UTC
Reactive containers do not explode, because they had no explosives. This is a known fact that in the battle tanks were empty containers of reactive protection, the explosives were stolen or sold prior to actual combat. These are the realities of the war.
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 - 03:38 AM UTC

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Reactive containers do not explode, because they had no explosives. This is a known fact that in the battle tanks were empty containers of reactive protection, the explosives were stolen or sold prior to actual combat. These are the realities of the war.



Thanks a lot Olegas
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 - 08:56 AM UTC

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Reactive containers do not explode, because they had no explosives. This is a known fact that in the battle tanks were empty containers of reactive protection, the explosives were stolen or sold prior to actual combat. These are the realities of the war.



Weren't there charges filed against some supply officers because of this? I thought I heard that several people went to prison when it surfaced that this happened.
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Posted: Monday, June 25, 2012 - 08:08 AM UTC

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I paid close attentio to that transmission part in the rear of the T-80. One of many things wrong with the DML/Zvesda.
I watched you correct that feature while I painted mine. LOL



Hi John,

I am building my T-80 based on only reference, I'm not using Zvezda's instructions. Yes, that transmission part is very wrong, thanks for following..

Regards

CC
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2012 - 07:37 AM UTC
Containers of dynamic protection on the Russian tanks from a fire don't blow up. In them as well as in shells brisant explosive already long ago is put. Which from high temperature of fire doesn't blow up, and simply burns out.
Look at a photo of any padded tank of the Russian production with dynamic protection. On one containers didn't blow up. Yes In Chechnya containers were empty, because of it could this tank and line. It unfortunately fact of the Russian sloppiness and criminal negligence. But even if they would be charged that all the same wouldn't blow up.

Here look at photo T-72 in the war in South Ossetia. On them there is a dynamic protection similar T-80.




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