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Js-2m, Tamiya, 1/35, finished
todorovicandreas
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Posted: Friday, June 08, 2012 - 11:34 PM UTC
Hi all,

I want to show you one of my latest finished models, it is the beautiful kit from Tamiya with some additions. I changed the kit-tracks and used Friuls, the MG is from Friul too. Unfortunately no MG is included in the kit, what a shame. The headlight is from ELF. I painted it with GUNZE acrylics and weathered with oils from Abteilung 502 and various products from AK interactive. For the tracks I used MIG pigments,w et and dry.

Hope you like it and all comments are welcome!

















Best regards,

Andreas
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 03:59 AM UTC
Oustastanding job Andreas

The brooch that you put on the base is a nice idea indeed.

Can you explayn exactly how you get this result with your painting job?

The only doubt which i have is about the green shade. It seems to me a bit too "green" considering that 4BO green actaually was close to an olive drab

Anyway, that's just an observation

Congrats indeed!

cheers
retiredyank
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 07:34 AM UTC
The tracks have me drooling! How did you achieve that effect?
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 07:55 AM UTC

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Oustastanding job Andreas

The brooch that you put on the base is a nice idea indeed.

Can you explayn exactly how you get this result with your painting job?

The only doubt which i have is about the green shade. It seems to me a bit too "green" considering that 4BO green actaually was close to an olive drab

Anyway, that's just an observation

Congrats indeed!

cheers



Seems to me you could paint it just about any shade of green you desired..........
http://lana-sator.livejournal.com/149761.html
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 11:37 AM UTC

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Oustastanding job Andreas

The brooch that you put on the base is a nice idea indeed.

Can you explayn exactly how you get this result with your painting job?

The only doubt which i have is about the green shade. It seems to me a bit too "green" considering that 4BO green actaually was close to an olive drab

Anyway, that's just an observation

Congrats indeed!

cheers



Seems to me you could paint it just about any shade of green you desired..........
http://lana-sator.livejournal.com/149761.html



Sorry, but I don't agree.
Actually these stunning pics seem to confirm that the color is close to an olive drab. The lighter shade that is noticeable is just the same color when is faded and worn. However, in the pics there are no trucks which look painted in bright green .
The eastern modellers are always puzzled by the colors that the western modellers use to paint Russian tanks. On average they think that all the models painted by the western modellers look like frogs

In the same way the don't know why all the Russian tanks made by the westerm look incredibly rusty. During the WW2, according to the Russian martial law, rust stains on a tank might have meant a death sentence for the crew...

Look here for further details about the 4bo green

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/185502&page=1

Anyawy, as I said before, that's not a criticism, the model looks really stunning in my opinion. A great job indeed

cheers
todorovicandreas
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 07:45 PM UTC
Thank you guys for your replies,

Matt, the tracks where weathered with MIG pigments. As a base I used a lighter earth tone, I think it was "europe dust" or something like that. I fixed the pigments with pigment fixer from MIg and used a darker pigment for the center of the tracks. After that I used AK´s "Wet Effect Fluid" to give the center of the track more "drama"
After this treatment I used abrasive paper (right translation?) to polish the friul tracks and give them some shine. I hope you get what I mean?

Mauro, thank you very much for your commet, I really appreciate it! For the painting I used GUNZE colors Nr. H65, H422, H312 and H50. They are very similar to the color modulation set from AK for russian vehicles (with the BT-7 from MIG on the cover)
After basic painting the whole model got a light rust wash to "unite" the different color shades. After that various washes (dark dust, light dust etc.) where applied on different places to give the model more contrast.

I know what you mean with the color Mauro. I´m aware that my color most probably is not correct but I have chosen it because I simply like it and it brings out deatils and is a good base for effects and weathering. I have some original colors from AKAN with the original tones for specific vehicles. Let me tell you, that If I use them on 1/35 models it looks sometimes really SHI&$! Too dark, and in my opinion taht kills a model and all it´s effects. On the other hand I also believe that, even if there was a paint code, I´m sure there where various shades of 4BO, from dark to light, from olive to green etc.
I hope you get what I mean? It´s someway a compromise between accuracy and effects on models. But anyway, I really appreciate your comments and thanks for the good words my friend.

All the best,
Andreas
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 09:41 PM UTC

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I hope you get what I mean? It´s someway a compromise between accuracy and effects on models. But anyway, I really appreciate your comments and thanks for the good words my friend.

All the best,
Andreas



Yes Andreas, I've understood and that's the reason why I REALLY think that your model looks outstanding and...realistic
That could be seen as a contradiction but actually it isn't. That could make start a long debat.
We try to reproduce something which look "realistic" but actually we "represent" the reality, we can't make a perfect replica of it. According to this point of view, something which is not realistic can give a realistic appeal to our jobs as well as something which is a perfect replica of the actual life could make our models look unrealistic.

So, for exemple, if you look at the hatches of an actual tank, you won't see any "pin wash" on its boards as well as there are no "drybrushing jobs" on a real T-34...But if you made a t-34 model without drybrushing or pin washes, if you made a 1/35 tank only painted in a dull solid color, it would look like an unrealistic toy, even if the color which you chose would be perfectly the same of the actual one.
You rightly said that your results are a sort of compromise between accuracy and effects on models, because in my opinion, a modeller have always to deal with these elements.

So, congrats indeed and thanks for sharing your unrealistic job which looks so realistic..

cheers
Tojo72
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 11:35 PM UTC
Looks great,you can't beat Friuls on the big Soviet beasts.your mud spattering technique looks great also
SHarjacek
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Posted: Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 12:07 AM UTC
Very cool build Andreas,as ussual from you.


todorovicandreas
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Posted: Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 04:39 AM UTC
Anthony and Sven,

thank you both for the positive feedback!

Andreas
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