What ya know? I am going to give up on this one. I tried my reasons for why this is not a TD, I had originally wanted to keep it just private between me and PvtParts, by sending him a TD as a gesture to compensate for him not being able to do the Chi-Nu for the group build at MY COST! But seeing all my efforts were just a laughing stock for some of you, with the jokes, the socks, and all.
Frankly I am tired of all these. I had thought it's best to make identification clear, so if a young person join the group build, he would know what's an TD, instead get his arse chewed out in more professional sites for calling a tank TD or a TD a tank. They are ruthless out there, ya know! But since, some of you rather to be nice, than sometimes stand firm on what is really right. I give up, I never waived in my whole life, and I don't need to waive on such a small issue. I concede, sometimes, you just can't win.
And for all of you chipped in on this thread, or other 3 to 4 threads that generates from it, ask yourself, how many of you are going to actually finish the group build, and post a picture of finished model? I know I am going to offend a lot of people, I never joined a group build or campaign that I never go all the way to the end with a finished model, it's committment for me. Maybe I am old styled, deadline and committment mean something to me. So if you are not plan to finish a groupbuild then why don't you get off the soap box, and leave this to people who are planning to ride this all the way? (No Offense PvtParts, I am sure you are going to finish the build, I always respect you, you are not one of the quiters)
All things said, this is a group build started small, we came up with this idea in chat, me and carl, at that time, we just want to do a Jagdtiger groupbuild. It should remain small, and among friends... (Carl, I told ya so )
So go ahead, build whatever you like, do a tiger, do a panther, do a polish lancer for all I care, come on, they were used to charging German Panzers, albeit not successfully, but still, DEPLOYED that way, do a Marverick Missle, whatever, just do whatever you want, and build something.
I vented!
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SS-74
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 07:36 PM UTC
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 09:45 PM UTC
Why has this degenerated into some kind of academic discussion? It's supposed to be a relaxed GB. I would strongly suggest that those who want to start arguing over the rivets go and find another.... I am getting really hacked off with this thread, if people can't read rules and accept them that's ok, personally I prefer a level playing field.
The photo of the panzerfaust team was so funny I almost laughed.....Jim
The photo of the panzerfaust team was so funny I almost laughed.....Jim
sgtreef
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 10:51 PM UTC
Sorry to hear you say that Dave I know you are not a quitter.
Hope I did not say anything wrong but that Jap tank is a Tank and the facts will show it look any where on the web ,at the pages I looked at not one time did I see it said it was A Tank Destroyer. #:-) #:-)
Goosh then anything with a turret is a TD (:-)
So do you want to end the build or what? (++) (++)
Hope I did not say anything wrong but that Jap tank is a Tank and the facts will show it look any where on the web ,at the pages I looked at not one time did I see it said it was A Tank Destroyer. #:-) #:-)
Goosh then anything with a turret is a TD (:-)
So do you want to end the build or what? (++) (++)
TankCarl
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:09 AM UTC
New Category New Category!
Honorary TD's.
For men w/antitank weapons.
Tanks sepecifically upgunned and sent to combat invadng tank forces.
Dioramas of SP artillery firing in direct fire mode.
Honorary TD's.
For men w/antitank weapons.
Tanks sepecifically upgunned and sent to combat invadng tank forces.
Dioramas of SP artillery firing in direct fire mode.
Kencelot
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:09 AM UTC
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Goosh then anything with a turret is a TD
So do you want to end the build or what?
Come on now, lets not get carried away here.
If you have been following all the treads on this discussion, you will know that John (PvtParts) had conceded. You have to give him some kind of credit for at least trying to have his Chi-Nu accepted into this TD GB. After all, the guy had spent upward of $70! in order to find a unique entry. John had also kept his sense of humor through this and I'm certain meant no harm to anyone by posting his rather funny "Stinky Bomb" - TD.
Enough said, now lets get to back to having fun.
PvtParts
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:29 AM UTC
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I ,PvtParts, thank all for participating in this fun and lively debate and hearby withdraw my Tank Thingy from this GB and will search for another Tank Destroyer....(any thoughts? ) I need to keep building and Im getting nothing done..besides the Uday thing scares me!
Listen all..ITS FOR FUN..I have no prob doing another build and yes SS made me a very generous offer! I will finish something for this and anything I post is in fun. I belittle nor begrudge anyone. I will abide by what I said, Smile and move on. :-) I suggest we remove this whole post.
crossbow
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:46 AM UTC
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I suggest we remove this whole post.
Please don't. It's to hilarious :-) :-) .
Kris
SS-74
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:57 AM UTC
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Quoted TextGoosh then anything with a turret is a TD
So do you want to end the build or what?
Come on now, lets not get carried away here.
If you have been following all the treads on this discussion, you will know that John (PvtParts) had conceded. You have to give him some kind of credit for at least trying to have his Chi-Nu accepted into this TD GB. After all, the guy had spent upward of $70! in order to find a unique entry. John had also kept his sense of humor through this and I'm certain meant no harm to anyone by posting his rather funny "Stinky Bomb" - TD.
Enough said, now lets get to back to having fun.
That's why I offered to compensate for his loss by sending him a TD of his choice at my COST.
jimbrae
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:58 AM UTC
This post should be locked down and left as a silent reminder as to why we don't (and never should) have a current affairs forum........Jim
PLMP110
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:47 PM UTC
Guys, I am not in the GB and only posted the photo of the panzerfaust team to try to break the tension. I feel that everyone here has demonstrated their passion for their opinion. I did not intend to belittle the debate. Forgive me if I offended anyone. It's all supposed to be fun.
Patrick
Patrick
sgtreef
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2003 - 10:10 PM UTC
I guess sometimes we take our Hobby a little to serious I think I will try both Nashorn and 88 MM hope I can get one in time as I am doing a Panther at another place so that is 3 models in 3 months boy turn on the mid night oil lamp cause here we come .
Now if Dave would let me borrow his eleves for awhile I would be in business (++) (:-)
Now if Dave would let me borrow his eleves for awhile I would be in business (++) (:-)
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 07:38 AM UTC
Lord Davidus,please don't leave the GB
uilebheist
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 07:48 AM UTC
Will an ISU 122 be considered a TD or heavy artillery?