Hello everyone.
I'm current;y building a Panther II model in 1/35 scale. I don't feel that the camouflage that cyberhobby provided is all that great. So i went looking and came across this: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs11/f/2007/118/0/5/Panther_Splinter_camo_v1_by_Cobra6.jpg

I thought that pattern would be great for a mid-late 1945 panther II (this being "what if")
However i came across this website that suggests that the over all colour is green instead of brown:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/154142

and

http://www.panther1944.de/community/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1514&start=10

My question is what picture is correct? Or are both correct?
I remember reading ages back that the red brown was in short supply? Or some colour... Any opinions woud be great thanks.

You should go with which ever camo pattern you want. It is a "what if" after all. I would do it overall plum with large green polka dots. But, that's just me.

Callum mate the Panther II was a real tank but the only thing that was finished was the chassis .. i have seen a pic of the only chassis made being driven from where by the US troops who captured it .
Matt is 100% right tho on painting it ..anything you want and you won't be wrong and have to admit ..Matt's idea for a paint job shoulds pretty cool

Phill

I would use the boxart first before I would use any of those that you gave as example.



Second, the Panther II was to have been built in September of 1943, so it's not a "what if" tank but actually a cancelled project, thus leaving the one lone prototype without a planned turret. So if any camo were to be used it would be one of which that was being utilized during that time period. If this tank had been built the G and F series never would have been built, or needed.

So, think 1943 ... not 1945 as this would be more in the time period as the Panther F and the overall paint used during that would have been olivgrun RAL 6003 (dark olive green) with possibly dunkelgelb RAL 7028 (tan) was applied in a striped and or patch pattern over the olivgrun.



HTH







~ Jeff

If callum is doing it as a post-war build, it would be a what-if and the "correct" camo patterns would be negligible. I know of a B-24 that was painted yellow with red polka dots. I feel he would have artistic license on this one. Of course, this is just MHO and sole responsibility lies on him. So long as you are enjoying the build, don't get bogged down.

Matt ,, yep that B24 was an old no longer fit for service D model and it was a formation lead plane ..it would set up the formations and then return to base , i remember seeing that thing in one of my books .

Phill

Hello everyone.
Thanks for the kind replies. As interesting as the previous camouflage schemes were, I found them somewhat boring. After staring at them for 15 minutes... I want the panther II to be interesting and have that "wow" factor to it. As it's an interesting tank. So i've decided to draw up my own camouflage using the black and white drawings you see on google images of the E-series etc. The pattern i found that would suit the tank better is similar to the octopus scheme. Here's a link:
http://panzersinscale.blogspot.com.au/2010/09/panther-ii.html

The cut circles bring it up to another level in my opinion.
I'll post photos of the plans when they're finished.
Callum

for the the "circles" you see in that camo scheme, you could probably use something as a sort of stamp. i know ive seen something that has an end like that. i believe it was the cap of a marker (the non writing end cap).

just pulled the end cap off of a sharpie i had lying here and its pretty much the same pattern. you could probably use one of those and just stamp the color you need

I like it! Looking forward to seeing it on your jagdpanzer.

[quoteI know of a B-24 that was painted yellow with red polka dots.[/quote]

There were a fair number of such aircraft; look up 'assembly ship' for examples. In order to facilitate assembling formations of bombers, the 8th Air Force took clapped-out B-17 and B-24 bombers and painted them in a variety of bright, easily-spotted schemes for the launching bombers to use to find their way to their formations:



Assembly ships were a particularly colorful and mostly overlooked part of the air war against Germany

That B-24 lib is a funny looking thing. Fancy having a camouflage like that! Anyway, i've finished the camouflage plans. Took longer than i thought... They're abit messy but still ok. I'm not completely impressed by the camouflage that i drew up, but wouldn't mind your opinions and what you would do to improve it.

Sides:
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/stan1115/panther%20II/?action=view¤t=P1010268.jpg
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/stan1115/panther%20II/?action=view¤t=P1010272.jpg
Front/Back:
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/stan1115/panther%20II/?action=view¤t=P1010270.jpg
Top:
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n534/stan1115/panther%20II/?action=view¤t=P1010274.jpg

I didn't draw the circle things that are going to be applied but that's a draft I guess. If you don't think it's all that great should i just go with cyberhobby provided camouflage and just add the circle things?
Another camo i thought would definitly give off a nice model is the "octopus" camo scheme. Just green base with yellow like stripes with green circles in the yellow stripes.
Any opinions would be great thanks.
Callum

Well, here is the result of the camouflage.
I went along and designed my own camo for the "Bolt Head" camouflage on the panther II and i think it turned out alright. I'm happy with the results.

Sorry for the bad photo, (the colours are different compared to the photo) I used a crappy camera that doesn't take up so much space on the account.

Comments welcome.
Callum

It was more an anti camouflage; the planes were brightly colored to be easy to pick out against the sky or ground so that the aircrews of the combat groups could see it to form up on. Once the formation was assembled, the formation ship ducked out and flew back to base, leaving the bomber boxes to fly to their target. Each formation ship had a different and distinctive paint scheme to make it easier for the regular combat crews to pick out the right one to form up on.