Robert Blokker provides an In-box review of the new Cyber-Hobby white box release, the Panzer IIC Mineroller DAK.
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Cyber-Hobby Panzer IIC Minerollerc5flies
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Posted: Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 08:23 AM UTC
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 10:33 AM UTC
Nice review Robert! I wasn't quite expecting the roller arm frames to be composed entirely of PE, but it looks like they are going to be very impressive when properly formed.
Bizarre
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Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 10:06 AM UTC
Robert, what about the sprocket and the tracks? Are sprockets with 25 teeth or 26?
In Bison II kit the sprocket is correct but it doesnt fit the tracks, which were designed for wrong sprocket.
In Bison II kit the sprocket is correct but it doesnt fit the tracks, which were designed for wrong sprocket.
Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 10:38 AM UTC
@Jeremy.
Thanks for the comments. I agree. Fiddly as the arms for the mineroller may be I think they will look awesome when finished.
@ Roman.
I have to check that out tomorrow. I heard similar stories from a fellow modeler. But that was after i submitted the review. I will come back at that. And if needed update the review
Thanks for the comments. I agree. Fiddly as the arms for the mineroller may be I think they will look awesome when finished.
@ Roman.
I have to check that out tomorrow. I heard similar stories from a fellow modeler. But that was after i submitted the review. I will come back at that. And if needed update the review
Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 07:02 PM UTC
@ Roman
I checked the sprocket visible in my pictures and that one has 26 teeth. But also visible in that picture is another set of sprockets. I'll check that when I get home. But I will also check which set you actually have to use according to the instructions.
I checked the sprocket visible in my pictures and that one has 26 teeth. But also visible in that picture is another set of sprockets. I'll check that when I get home. But I will also check which set you actually have to use according to the instructions.
panzerbob01
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 01:21 AM UTC
@Faust;
Nice review, Robert! Looks like this one should get onto my stack and get built! Of course, as there seems but one of these ever built that all of our kits must sport exactly the same paint-scheme (barring where you add your dirt!) and perforce look like clones. "How boring, that!"
@Roman:
Uh oh. Is this another one of those odd track issues? So which Magic Track set and which sprocket wheels did the D / CH use here? I somehow find it hard to imagine that the D created "new tool" another set of Panzer II Magic Tracks just for this kit... IF CH took those tracks AND that 26-tooth "correct count" sprocket from the Bison II kit, I would guess that we'll get the same maybe subtle mismatch of track-pitch and sprocket apparently seen therein! IF D created a NEW 26-tooth with different pitch to better meet that of the track set - great! As Robert noted, there IS a 26-tooth sprocket here...
I'm not sure which - a sprocket short one tooth from real but fitting with the tracks supplied in a kit and thus making a nice, "easy install" running gear which will look good without fuss (but which will tease the accuracy-minded and tooth-counters), OR a "correct-count" sprocket which creates accuracy but which needs surgery and fuss to fit its tracks - is the better deal.
Bob
Nice review, Robert! Looks like this one should get onto my stack and get built! Of course, as there seems but one of these ever built that all of our kits must sport exactly the same paint-scheme (barring where you add your dirt!) and perforce look like clones. "How boring, that!"
@Roman:
Uh oh. Is this another one of those odd track issues? So which Magic Track set and which sprocket wheels did the D / CH use here? I somehow find it hard to imagine that the D created "new tool" another set of Panzer II Magic Tracks just for this kit... IF CH took those tracks AND that 26-tooth "correct count" sprocket from the Bison II kit, I would guess that we'll get the same maybe subtle mismatch of track-pitch and sprocket apparently seen therein! IF D created a NEW 26-tooth with different pitch to better meet that of the track set - great! As Robert noted, there IS a 26-tooth sprocket here...
I'm not sure which - a sprocket short one tooth from real but fitting with the tracks supplied in a kit and thus making a nice, "easy install" running gear which will look good without fuss (but which will tease the accuracy-minded and tooth-counters), OR a "correct-count" sprocket which creates accuracy but which needs surgery and fuss to fit its tracks - is the better deal.
Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 03:15 AM UTC
Bob, I cut few teeth on my Bison and then glued them back when the tracks were set at place >) This is not noticeable on the finished model.
Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 09:38 AM UTC
@ Bob.
Lol. So much for diversity. Still with only 1 photograph available of this vehicle there is some freedom. We don't know how long it served and what happened to it during his service life. Maybe the vehicle was transferred from europe in panzer grey. Slowly being revealed by the sandblasting of the desertyellow. During non working hours the crew dressed it up as a bedouin tent (we all know the stories right ) for all i know in a moment of boredom the crew painted Rembrandts Nightwatch on the shadowside of the vehicle Options enough Id say.
On to more serious matters. I checked the building manual and it lists both sprockets as option you could use. One is the standard type. The other is thereinforced type with a lot more bolts added to the toothed rim of the sprocket. One thing they have in common though is the fact that they have 26 teeth. So at least the correct number. I can't comment yet on how the tracks are going to fit yet. That will be a detail that will pop up during the built.
Lol. So much for diversity. Still with only 1 photograph available of this vehicle there is some freedom. We don't know how long it served and what happened to it during his service life. Maybe the vehicle was transferred from europe in panzer grey. Slowly being revealed by the sandblasting of the desertyellow. During non working hours the crew dressed it up as a bedouin tent (we all know the stories right ) for all i know in a moment of boredom the crew painted Rembrandts Nightwatch on the shadowside of the vehicle Options enough Id say.
On to more serious matters. I checked the building manual and it lists both sprockets as option you could use. One is the standard type. The other is thereinforced type with a lot more bolts added to the toothed rim of the sprocket. One thing they have in common though is the fact that they have 26 teeth. So at least the correct number. I can't comment yet on how the tracks are going to fit yet. That will be a detail that will pop up during the built.