Guys
this is a 4 inch Matilda
wheels are widened Valantine drive sprockets are Centurion
exhaust silencers scratch built and moulded
i wanted to use the original mantlet to give it as much a Matilda look as possible
guess what the tracks are
all comments welcome
regards Andrew
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whatif 4 inch matilda cruiser
armagh5
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 10:21 AM UTC
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 11:08 AM UTC
I must admit Andy I do enjoy watching your what if British AFV's coming together. My only concern would be the turret not being long enough for that gun, rather than the box I would have extended the rear of the turret as is seen on the firefly.
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 12:11 PM UTC
are the tracks from a tiger or panther?
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 12:14 PM UTC
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are the tracks from a tiger or panther?
They look more like panther tracks to me. I've attempted several Tiger builds and they don't seem to be of the same type.
Nice modifications.
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 12:24 PM UTC
the tracks are beyond me.?the rest of the build
looks very cool to me.
looks very cool to me.
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 05:40 AM UTC
Hi Andrew,
cool build I, like the Charioteer style turret. It should take the recoil, as long as the shell charge is kept down,
or add a muzzle brake.
Paul
cool build I, like the Charioteer style turret. It should take the recoil, as long as the shell charge is kept down,
or add a muzzle brake.
Paul
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 06:03 AM UTC
Very cool. Would the tracks be Tiger 1 transport tracks?
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 06:11 AM UTC
Those are Tiger 1 transport tracks. I am very surprised their pitch fits the Centurion sprockets!
Cheers!
+Y.C.
Cheers!
+Y.C.
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Posted: Monday, July 30, 2012 - 04:57 PM UTC
cool idea ! agree that the turret should have a bustle rather than the stowage box. Not sure about a muzzle-brake - I haven't ever seen one on a ship's 4"er.
Main missing item to me is typical small-wheeled suspension of the original Matilda, maybe a good thick side bazooka-plate on the side will restore the "look"?
Love these Alt. afv ideas of yours, Andrew !
Main missing item to me is typical small-wheeled suspension of the original Matilda, maybe a good thick side bazooka-plate on the side will restore the "look"?
Love these Alt. afv ideas of yours, Andrew !
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Posted: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 10:55 AM UTC
guys
thanks for your replies
the turret could have done with being longer
i may change that even though it now been painted
the tracks are tiger transport tracks and fitted well
thanks again for yopur interest
regards Andrew
thanks for your replies
the turret could have done with being longer
i may change that even though it now been painted
the tracks are tiger transport tracks and fitted well
thanks again for yopur interest
regards Andrew
Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 03:28 AM UTC
Andrew,
Where, exactly, did you get the 4" barrel? Is it a Soviet T54 100mm barrel?
It certainly isn't the right length, shape or barrel wall thickness to be a British naval gun.
Really, in that small turret, if you wanted anything even as small as a 75mm, it almost _had_ to have a brake. Even the turret ring on the expanded turret on this tank is probably only about the same diameter as a Crusader's and that had to have a brake when fitted with the Brit 75mm in the Staghound III.
I like the change in look with the new suspension. I don't know where the torsion bars would go, but I like the look.
I like "what-ifs" as well, but my mechanical design engineer's mind keeps wanting to impose realism on these things yet still keep the playfulness of the what-if concept.
Still, other than the overly long barrel & no brake, it looks reasonably well balanced. It _could_ use the radio bustle if you are so inclined and perhaps an auxilliary fuel tank hanging over the back like the Crusaders?
Paul
Where, exactly, did you get the 4" barrel? Is it a Soviet T54 100mm barrel?
It certainly isn't the right length, shape or barrel wall thickness to be a British naval gun.
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As I say above, it really isn't a shop's 4" gun. But if it was, a) it wouldn't fit into that turret b) you couldn't handle the ammo in that turret (Mk XIX 4" QF ammo was almost 4 feet long!) and c) if you _could_ modify the mounting enough to squish into that turret, you could add a brake on the muzzle, no problem. Not sure about a muzzle-brake - I haven't ever seen one on a ship's 4"er.
Really, in that small turret, if you wanted anything even as small as a 75mm, it almost _had_ to have a brake. Even the turret ring on the expanded turret on this tank is probably only about the same diameter as a Crusader's and that had to have a brake when fitted with the Brit 75mm in the Staghound III.
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Main missing item to me is typical small-wheeled suspension of the original Matilda, maybe a good thick side bazooka-plate on the side will restore the "look"?
I like the change in look with the new suspension. I don't know where the torsion bars would go, but I like the look.
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Love these Alt. afv ideas of yours, Andrew !
I like "what-ifs" as well, but my mechanical design engineer's mind keeps wanting to impose realism on these things yet still keep the playfulness of the what-if concept.
Still, other than the overly long barrel & no brake, it looks reasonably well balanced. It _could_ use the radio bustle if you are so inclined and perhaps an auxilliary fuel tank hanging over the back like the Crusaders?
Paul