Darren Baker takes a look at Bronco's latest offering, the Hungarian 40/43M Zrinyi II 105mm assault gun.
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Bronco Hungarian 40/43M Zrinyi IIc5flies
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Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 10:40 AM UTC
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 07:15 AM UTC
Thank You Darren !
Very well written. I hope Bronco keeps up making kits that are not from the major players of WWII. I wish I didn't have so many kits in the queue. I would go out and get this one ASAP !
Thanks again ! Tom
Very well written. I hope Bronco keeps up making kits that are not from the major players of WWII. I wish I didn't have so many kits in the queue. I would go out and get this one ASAP !
Thanks again ! Tom
Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:11 AM UTC
When the after market companies catch up with this kit it will really benefit with all the hatches. This kit just cries out for an interior.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:24 AM UTC
With only 1 left is in existence, reference for the aftermarket folks might be kinda hard to find.
bill_c
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:58 AM UTC
Nice review, Darren. It's good to see other nationalities, there were other vehicles besides just the German ones fighting for the Axis. Starting to see more large scale planes with alternative markings. We've seen the Italian Fascists represented for years, and a smattering for Finnish vehicles.
Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 10:03 AM UTC
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With only 1 left is in existence, reference for the aftermarket folks might be kinda hard to find.
Jesse in the instruction booklet there is a list of people who helped with the data for the model and so I believe contacting them will get the needed info, I also suspect they would be only too willing to help with the chance of an interior and engine in the offing.
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 10:24 AM UTC
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Quoted TextWith only 1 left is in existence, reference for the aftermarket folks might be kinda hard to find.
Jesse in the instruction booklet there is a list of people who helped with the data for the model and so I believe contacting them will get the needed info, I also suspect they would be only too willing to help with the chance of an interior and engine in the offing.
Ahh, very cool.
Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 06:20 PM UTC
Great to see this release for anyone with a taste for something different. Certainly made my Wants-List!
Peelou75
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 06:09 AM UTC
Thanks for the well detailed review Darren!
The guys referred on the last page are one of the biggest Hungarian modeller enthusiasts, so I guess they can provide info about the interior as well.
Just one little mistake to correct in the review (hopefully there will be more and more english reference as the new Hungarian subject hit the market), the Zrinyi was not produced in the Skoda factory, but was produced in Hungary. The base of the vehicle was a czech construction, the Skoda T-21 tank, which was modified for Hungarian needs, and built as Turan, and it was converted to a very successful assault gun, the Zrinyi.
The guys referred on the last page are one of the biggest Hungarian modeller enthusiasts, so I guess they can provide info about the interior as well.
Just one little mistake to correct in the review (hopefully there will be more and more english reference as the new Hungarian subject hit the market), the Zrinyi was not produced in the Skoda factory, but was produced in Hungary. The base of the vehicle was a czech construction, the Skoda T-21 tank, which was modified for Hungarian needs, and built as Turan, and it was converted to a very successful assault gun, the Zrinyi.
Bizarre
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 06:28 AM UTC
There is a good book Magyar Steel with some images of Zrinyi and info about it.
Istvan, is it correct that it was painted OD as per Bronco's manual?
Istvan, is it correct that it was painted OD as per Bronco's manual?
Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 06:32 AM UTC
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Thanks for the well detailed review Darren!
The guys referred on the last page are one of the biggest Hungarian modeller enthusiasts, so I guess they can provide info about the interior as well.
Just one little mistake to correct in the review (hopefully there will be more and more english reference as the new Hungarian subject hit the market), the Zrinyi was not produced in the Skoda factory, but was produced in Hungary. The base of the vehicle was a czech construction, the Skoda T-21 tank, which was modified for Hungarian needs, and built as Turan, and it was converted to a very successful assault gun, the Zrinyi.
Thank you for the information and I will correct that in the review.
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 06:39 AM UTC
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Istvan, is it correct that it was painted OD as per Bronco's manual?
Yeah, what shade of OD is it really?
zsepi65
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 01:29 AM UTC
Here is some help for the color code Hungarian WWII AFV-s
Testors
green 2-part 1710 1-part 1711
brown 1735
ochre 1583
to convert other paints i recommend this site
http://www.paint4models.com/
cheers
zsepi
Testors
green 2-part 1710 1-part 1711
brown 1735
ochre 1583
to convert other paints i recommend this site
http://www.paint4models.com/
cheers
zsepi
Bizarre
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 03:04 AM UTC
1710 is equivalent to XF13 of XF27 and 1711 is equivalent to XF62 of XF51... that's kinda unclear
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Posted: Monday, August 13, 2012 - 01:30 AM UTC
Nice review Darren, this one goe on my wish list right now!
Phil.
Phil.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 03:16 AM UTC
guys, anyone interested deeper for this topic, here's a link for a Hungarian forum:
http://www.makett.org/index.php/topic,4844.0.html
google translate helps...
and many of those guys enumerated on Bronco's reference are members on this forum. I think they'll be helpful.
http://www.makett.org/index.php/topic,4844.0.html
google translate helps...
and many of those guys enumerated on Bronco's reference are members on this forum. I think they'll be helpful.
Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 09:04 AM UTC
An exciting subject! Thank goodness it is not another Tiger or Panther! It looks like a well molded model, too. It is great for the Axis Minor countries to finally have their vehicles and other subjects modeled.
Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 09:19 PM UTC
This is now on the wanted list. Thanks a lot Darren, for making me use even more of my hard earned cash
Jacob
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Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 09:36 PM UTC
Bizarre
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Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 09:45 PM UTC
Here is mine. I used mantlet from SBS. Review of suspension would be at armorama soon.
http://roman-bizarre.blogspot.no/2012/10/zrinyi-ii-done.html
http://roman-bizarre.blogspot.no/2012/10/zrinyi-ii-done.html
Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 11:29 PM UTC
Really nice work Roman. Maybe you should add a bit more dust on the tracks, they look too clean. Well, just my humble opinion.
Jacob
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Posted: Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 12:38 AM UTC
Thanks, Jacob. I updated the images in my blog with a Hungarian figure from Radek Pituch.