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Extreme M-ATV'ing
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 01:40 PM UTC
After watching my M-ATV box sitting untouched for the last 6 weeks during this term at uni, I have finally opened the box, by now you have all see the reviews and various build logs so I won't go into the kit issues.
What I wanted to do was start to use some of the skills I have been taught as an Industrial Design student to make my scale model building better, so here goes.

First up is the suspension system, a lot of what we do in Industrial is making things that work (works like models Vs Looks like models) after looking at the springs I was very underwhelmed, the replacement spring is .97mm mild spring steal formed on the lathe.
The next part was making working independent suspension, after cutting and drilling the axels and making new shocks from brass tube the final linkage pins are formed from thick gauge guitar wire.







The next part was the most fun making working headlights, indicators, brake lights, cabin lights and screen and dial lights. The headlights are 3mm bright white LEDs and the indicators are micro chip LEDs (for all the rivet counters out there the micro chip LEDs are 1.5mm x2mm, so really tiny )









The next stage is building a Cat C7 ARR engine and Allison 3500Sp transmission to replace the plastic blocks that came in the kit hehe


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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:17 PM UTC
I have to wipe the drool from my desk. And really, you should find yourself a hobby! LOL! Great stuff and good luck!!!
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:35 PM UTC
Thanks man, 6 more weeks of uni for this year then 4 months off so i can model my heart out
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:48 PM UTC
Trust a kiwi to go utterly bonkers on that beast ,,Luke mate seriously looking excellent ,,doing us kiwi's proud and showing just how mental most of us kiwi's modellers are
Trust me i will be watching this real close

Phill
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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 04:07 PM UTC
HOLY CRAP. MAN!!!! Fantastic!!!
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 09:10 PM UTC
WOW thanks guys for the support this far, just about finished all the drawings for the engine, will start building it tomorrow along side designing a eletronics package for a group project....oh joy know which one id rather be doing.....
35th-scale
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 12:47 AM UTC
This has to be a contender for the build log of the year!
Love what you've done so far but you do realise you've set the bar very high for the rest of the build. After those lights and suspension I'm expecting it to be a fully working engine
DeskJockey
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 05:28 AM UTC
Very nice. I particularly like the working suspension--it opens up quite a few possibilities for dioramas.
gcdavidson
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 11:57 AM UTC
Are you going to make that a functioning engine as well?

Seriously, nice work. Its rare to see an AFV kit wired for lights.
KoSprueOne
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 01:19 PM UTC
Impressive detailed work
What are the LEDs powered with?
Subscribed and will be watching how you make the forward night vision camera transmit video images to the cabin . . .




WilliamDeCicco
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 04:21 PM UTC
This build is turning into a new way to model an take it to the next level.Just amazing.

Happy Modeling
William E. DeCicco
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 10:11 PM UTC
Hey everyone just a quick update for today, I got stuck into the C7 engine which is proving to be much harder than my drawings make it look......





Im wasn't super happy with the mid section so I have removed it and started fresh, hoping to head to uni tomorrow to get the mini drill press to save time on the upper engine cover. What do you guys following this think of the engine so far, the gold coloured paint is 3M's Primer filler which has saved my life so often on tough uni models.





Also thought i might show you guys how the suspension looks on the lower frame...



Also to "KoSprueOne" the LEDs are all 3v or 1.8v, (the 1.8v have a 51 ohm resistor in series) so they all run just fine of 2 AA batteries that will be tucked under the display bottom when the M-ATV is finished, the primary power cable will enter via one of the tyres and will be made to look like brake lines, this is all going to plan
Thanks again for the comments guys it means heaps..... any more questions just ask...
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 12:54 AM UTC
Great work on the details so far Luke. Shaping up to be a great build log!!
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 06:22 AM UTC
Looking great. Any chance you will be casting the engine/tranny combo?
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 08:31 AM UTC
sure thing, providing it looks ok then ill make a few casts.......
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 09:34 AM UTC
Good deal. Keep me in mind when you do. I'm in for one set.
Hisham
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 10:02 AM UTC
This is some crazy stuff you're doing with that kit, Luke! Maybe I missed it.. but which M-ATV kit are you using?

Regarding the engine, is this totally from scratch, or are you using a base from some other kit... I would also love to get a copy if you ever decide to cast some.

Looking forward to see more!

Hisham
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 10:21 AM UTC
Really amazing Luke...Good luck there...
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 - 10:27 AM UTC
The kit is the Panda kit, the engine is fully scratch, I didn't take any photos of the first steps mainly because my DSLr was pluged in but not turned on so it wasnt charged lol

KoSprueOne
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Posted: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 11:53 AM UTC

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Also to "KoSprueOne" the LEDs are all 3v or 1.8v, (the 1.8v have a 51 ohm resistor in series) so they all run just fine of 2 AA batteries that will be tucked under the display bottom when the M-ATV is finished, the primary power cable will enter via one of the tyres and will be made to look like brake lines, this is all going to plan
Thanks again for the comments guys it means heaps..... any more questions just ask...



Ok, thanks for the info.
Your doing a great job on the scratch built engine !




PantherF
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Posted: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 12:25 PM UTC
Wow, being once a suspension specialist (and amongst other things dealing in the automotive field) I can say I am blown away with what I see in the first images.

This needs to have a mirror under it when it's finished!







~ Jeff
M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 08:47 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Wow, being once a suspension specialist (and amongst other things dealing in the automotive field) I can say I am blown away with what I see in the first images.

This needs to have a mirror under it when it's finished!

~ Jeff





Thanks so much everyone for the great comments, one question I'm about to buy the AK interactive M-ATV DVD but I wanted to see if anyone has it and can tell me if there are any images of the engine, mounts and transmission case??

M1A1hunter2
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 11:46 PM UTC
Really quick update for the engine.





im liking how it is looking however it may be too small, because after test fitting it in the truck it seemed tiny, hence the AK interactive DVD, if I can get images of the engine from above and from below the truck I can scale the new engine to be the right scale size, the current engine is scaled from the Cat website and a service manual I dug up on the net, I'll post up some images of the test placement and any of you guys that maybe know trucks or the M-ATV better than me can tell if I'm way off or close enough to get away with it?
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