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T8 90mm US towed AT gun
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:34 AM UTC
I thought the Arty guys would be interested in this photo from the Kentucky Military History Museum, Frankfort, KY.

This is the same 90mm gun as mounted in the late war Pershing.



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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:47 AM UTC
If anyone is interested in close-ups of this weapon let me know and I will post them in this forum.

The link to my photos of the entire museum can be found here:

http://s1061.photobucket.com/albums/t461/165thspc/Kentucky%20Military%20Museum/
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 11:50 AM UTC

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This is the same 90mm gun as mounted in the late war Pershing.




Not exactly. It fired the same ammunition but the Pershing mounted an M3 and this was, well, a T8. Typically tank and anti-tank guns had different breech operating mechanisms, firing mechanisms, and recoiling surfaces. Often the two types would also orient the breech ring differently, i.e. vertical/horizontal.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 09:44 PM UTC
Kurt's correct, but I'd still like to see more pics!

Thanks in advance,

Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 - 08:10 AM UTC
Thanks for setting me straight.

Round on the way!

Photos will be posted
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Posted: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 - 09:17 AM UTC



Link to additional photos from the Kentucky Military History Museum.

165thspc's 90mm US AT Gun album on Photobucket
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 01:41 AM UTC
Do not know what the problem is with the link above.

Here are the close ups of the T-8:

http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/165thspc/slideshow/90mm%20US%20AT%20Gun

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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 03:51 AM UTC

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I thought the Arty guys would be interested in this photo...



Nope, still doesn't, just like it didn't 3 years ago. Why would we be? It is not artillery. Ant-Tank guns were crewed by armor and infantrymen. They would not usually interest a true artillerymen since they are direct fire weapons.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 05:25 AM UTC
Just rebuilding the broken link in case anyone was interested.

Not my subject of interest either but it is a rare gun that I happen to have local access to so I make it available here to other modelers.

Don't shoot the messenger.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 06:48 AM UTC
I was under the impression that the anti-tank guns were part of the Tank Destroyer Command, an organization under the command structure of the artillery during WWII. Only after the TD command was abolished were the guns assigned to the infantry.

Perhaps that only applies to the armored units, but I though the towed guns were also part of the TD command.

Some where I have a pamphlet on the TD's that had an organization chart. I got it from one of the TD historians ages ago, but it probably got lost when the roof came off my storage room.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:31 AM UTC
Some anti-Tank guns and Tank Destroyers did indeed fall under Tank Destroyer Branch, later Command.

In terms of anti-tank guns, it's my understanding that the 37 MM and 57 MM remained under infantry branch control, but the larger 3 inch AT guns, and the 90 MM had it been adopted would have belonged to Tank Destroyer units.

In terms of artillery, actually the tank destroyer branch was the brainchild of artillery officers, and many of its initial cadre of men were artillerymen given the skillset behind operating an AT gun.
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