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DML BEF France 1940wedgetail53
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 11:24 AM UTC
bill_c
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 12:18 PM UTC
Hi, Rob, can you explain what the PE is for? I can't see it in the photos, and I couldn't find a mention of it in the text.
stoney
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 01:03 PM UTC
Bill, it looks like the P.E. Is for the webbing handles on the ammo cases.
Posted: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 01:06 PM UTC
The three ammunition cases have webbing strap handles on each side, meaning six are required, but only three are provided in etched brass, which will definitely require annealing.
Bill, don't worry I read things and miss them too, I think it is age, or just skimming.
Kevin
Bill, don't worry I read things and miss them too, I think it is age, or just skimming.
Kevin
Posted: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 08:56 PM UTC
Congrats to DML on two counts, another 1/35 scale Vickers HMG and the first plastic injection BFE infantry troops, although Bronco's Bofors crew might count there.
This is a good development and from the box art the poses of the figures look good. With a good selection of early armour around the set should present good opportunities for modellers of the early war period.
The webbing handles should be easily doable from rolled lead wire and both Hornet and Resicast have nice Mk I heads and helmets if there is an issue there.
I couldn't actually tell much from the pictures provided, the grey on grey background doesn't work well. Have we shrunk picture size for some reason? For review images these are very small!
You could also use these in Norway and N. Africa and if you take away the Vickers you have the makings of a good Scout patrol.
Another useful addition and it would be nice to dream that DML might do some additional BEF troops to compliment the set.
Thanks for the review.
Cheers
Al
This is a good development and from the box art the poses of the figures look good. With a good selection of early armour around the set should present good opportunities for modellers of the early war period.
The webbing handles should be easily doable from rolled lead wire and both Hornet and Resicast have nice Mk I heads and helmets if there is an issue there.
I couldn't actually tell much from the pictures provided, the grey on grey background doesn't work well. Have we shrunk picture size for some reason? For review images these are very small!
You could also use these in Norway and N. Africa and if you take away the Vickers you have the makings of a good Scout patrol.
Another useful addition and it would be nice to dream that DML might do some additional BEF troops to compliment the set.
Thanks for the review.
Cheers
Al
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 10:42 PM UTC
Agree that the Helmets have a much too high top.
Isn't the empty ammo belt included as part W9?
The Vickers gunner's fingers are not in the right position to be actually firing the gun.
Some scabbards for the bayonets would have been good too.
Isn't the empty ammo belt included as part W9?
The Vickers gunner's fingers are not in the right position to be actually firing the gun.
Some scabbards for the bayonets would have been good too.
jimbrae
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 11:03 PM UTC
Seeing this for the first time yesterday in the news secton(yes I REALLY have been out of touch) I really have to hand it to DML for finally going a little more imaginative. That though, is somewhat tempered by the utility of prone/semi-prone figures. The greatcoats (long on my personal wishlists) are also a great selling point. Hopefully they'll be backed-up with some STANDING infantry figures?
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 02:56 AM UTC
There is a Bren Carrier pictured as part of the box art. I hope this indicates a near future release of this vehicle by Dragon. The ancient Tamiya one is getting harder to find (if anyone cares to find it!)
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 03:04 AM UTC
The smallest PE bits are some kind of locking handles (or something) on the Vickers tripod post. Were there more than one style of cooling jacket made by Vickers? The Dragon has a relatively smooth surface, and MB's Vickers has a fluted, or grooved jacket. Although the MB one is very good, Dragon's is marginally better.
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2012 - 11:24 AM UTC
Marginally better? Not too sure about that, because the Dragon gun looks far too short in my opinion.
The length information which I've been able to find gives the Vickers gun as being 43-44 inches overall - just less than 32mm in 1/35 scale.
The Dragon one is much shorter than this.
The length information which I've been able to find gives the Vickers gun as being 43-44 inches overall - just less than 32mm in 1/35 scale.
The Dragon one is much shorter than this.
Biggles2
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 04:00 AM UTC
That's the Mk 10 version with shortened barrel to make it lighter and save space.
exer
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Posted: Monday, March 11, 2013 - 10:08 AM UTC
Having built and reviewed the Masterbox Vickers I'm wondering how this set compares- has anyone built it yet?
Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2013 - 01:50 AM UTC
Hi,
Anyone seen this kit in the UK?
Al
Anyone seen this kit in the UK?
Al
exer
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2013 - 01:58 AM UTC
Alan, I saw it in Belfast about six months ago in The Modeller's Nook
Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2013 - 03:58 AM UTC
Thanks Pat, I hadn't seen the set at any of my normal suppliers.
Al
Al