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Armor/AFV: Braille Scale
1/72 and 1/76 Scale Armor and AFVs.
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Braille Scale Opinions needed
ChrisDM
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Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:29 PM UTC
Calling all Braille Scalers!

Would you be interested in 1/72 Scale Kits from Inside the Armour?

If you would please could you answer the following:

1. What level of detail do you prefer in your kits (Highly detailed with more parts, less detail but very little assembly)

2. What is the most you would pay for a good 1/72 kit? (Honest answers please, not what you would *like* 1/72 kits to cost)

Thanks guys!


Chris
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Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 11:00 PM UTC
Hi Chris,

It is heartening to have a manufacturer ask us if we would like something, I think most Braille Scale modellers would be interested in new models. To answer your question, this is my personal take on the matter so I may be contradicted, as to level of detail - I would say that now Braille modelling is becoming more popular the quest for better and more refined detail is evident. Personally, I look for as much detail as possible in a kit, to reduce the need for aftermarket (which is a growing industry in this scale, but is well behind the 1/35 arena). Tracks are a major problem as we don't have the choice of after market stuff and some of the examples included in kits are pretty parlous to say the least. Nicely detailed tracks, that could be purchased separately even, would be a big plus. A couple of nicely detailed figures would be a big bonus too.

As to cost, well some of the better detailed kits are now running out, in the UK at least, at around £18 -20, which sounds a lot, but if it gives a lot of modelling time and a good end result, I don't mind paying. Mid price kits are about £8 -10, but don't have as much detail. Personally I would pay the higher price for a superbly detailed and moulded kit as it would provide many hours of enjoyment.

Hope this helps.

All the best,

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 04:49 AM UTC
I would really like to see kits with better detail with additional multi media parts included and would also like to see well detailed figures included with the kits as well. Especially modern stuff.
Charlie
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 05:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Would you be interested in 1/72 Scale Kits from Inside the Armour?

If you would please could you answer the following:

1. What level of detail do you prefer in your kits (Highly detailed with more parts, less detail but very little assembly)



Highly detailed is my personal desire for a kit. The parts count I think will depend on the subject but using a few older Dragon kits as an example, around (Hornise, Panzer IV, SdKfx 251...) 75+. As Paul (spacewolfdad) noted, as much 'extra' detail items (stowage items etc.) as necessary to reduce the need for aftermarket and if appropriate, some figures (gun crew for a crew served weapon).


Quoted Text


2. What is the most you would pay for a good 1/72 kit? (Honest answers please, not what you would *like* 1/72 kits to cost)



In my area we pay between $16 and $21 for a decent kit (Dragon, Academy, some Trumpeter). For me, unless warranted by detail and parts count, it would be rare to spend more than lets say, $24 for a 1/72 scale styrene kit.

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:28 AM UTC
I will assume Inside the Armour is resin. Because of the nature of casting resin, as opposed to injected plastic, greater detail is possible with fewer parts, so a happy compromise can be reached.
spacewolfdad
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 11:13 AM UTC
Hi Chris,

I have just been on your website and seen your Covenanter, that would be an awesome kit in 1/72. You also do brass shells and shell cases, I know from talking to several Braille modellers that is one thing they would like and certainly buy more than a few of. If you could produce decal sets like your Churchill ones I think you would find a market there as well.

All the best,

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 02:42 PM UTC
@ChrisDM – Chris,

Thank you for taking all of us into consideration pending your possible intentions of producing vehicles in 72nd scale.

Personally I like highly detailed and accurate renditions of vehicles in this scale. Parts count is unimportant provided this does not hinder being able to achieve an acceptable level of detail without having to spend the added time and effort to create, refine or make corrections to the kits existing details. This equates to spending more money on a high quality kit, in essence money well spent on a good kit equals time and effort saved.

Having to purchase aftermarket items to add, enhance or replace out of scale details raises the overall price of any kit and most cast resin and photo-etched parts usually cost more than the kit. As a consumer I am more than willing to spend money on a kit that is well detailed. Providing photo-etched parts, only if needed because of a manufacturing process not allowing for correctly rendering details is a plus. Included assembly instructions and well researched decals / dry transfers, painting and markings guide easy puts kits like that on the top of my list.

Again, thanks for asking,
~ Eddy
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 07:58 AM UTC
Hello,
15 USD for plastic kit
20 USD for resin kit
+ (3-5 USD shipping)

I prefer detailed kits, PE parts can be..
Regards..
ChrisDM
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 12:58 PM UTC
Thanks or the feedback everyone

While I will try to keep costs down, I don't think I can make a good resin kit for less than £20, around $27.

Erhan, I couldn't even ship one domestically in the UK for $5 lol, or less than $14 intenationally. That's just how much Royal Mail Costs!

Chris
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 03:02 PM UTC
Chris, prices here in the states run 12.00-25.00 for plastic. Basic resin kits run 20.00-45.00. I'd prefer modern compared to WWII.
Charlie
ChrisDM
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 03:14 PM UTC
Hi Charlie

I only have plans to produce post-wwII subjects at the moment

Chris
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 06:21 AM UTC
Hi Chris,
I live in Turkey. China, Japan, Poland and the USA shipping is cheap for me. Average of 4-5 USD per kit. European Union countries is very expensive. I do not buy the kit from EU.

Jadar, Lucky, Hobbyeasy .. there are my favourite shopping for shipping..

Example for shipping :

my last activity about Ebay .

Winning bid:US $31.00 (5 box Esci kit)
[ 9 bids ]
Shipping: $17.88 USPS First Class Mail International
Item location:Carolina, Puerto Rico, United States (to Turkey)

***

Winning bid:US $7.95 (Dragon Bergepanzer Tiger kit)
Shipping: $7.50 Standard Int'l Shipping
Item location:Taipei, Taiwan
PanzerAlexander
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 09:19 AM UTC
I prefer the highest level of detail without second thought.
Some points that I evaluate:

Separate in-scale tools(usually shovels and axes have very thick handles)

Link by link tracks with extra detail. I dont like vinyl with some exceptions (Dragon)

Interior if visible, Hatches as separate pieces with their inside detail in case I want to model them opened.

I wouldn't mind pay as high as 30$ for a really nice plastic kit, but not something that it's already covered on the market (How many more panthers and tigers do we need?)

I have paid more than the amount mentioned aboveand thought it was worth it, and I have paid less and regret it. It is really a matter of what you get.

P.A.
ChrisDM
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 01:27 PM UTC
Erhan, my business is in the EU, if you refuse to order from the EU (By the way, Poland and Jadar are in teh EU too) then this thread is not for you I guess

Alexander, as I have said a couple of times; these will be modern releases, not more panzers

nikon1
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 03:05 PM UTC
Chris, I'm all in for modern releases as that is my preference. Some nicely detailed arty would be very welcomed. Country/military not that important.
Charlie
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