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Modern camo net
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 06:42 AM UTC
I made my own camo net. I found stuff you could buy and it looks great. I like to make my own stuff though when I can. Plus I'm frugal (cheap)

So, I set off to "roll-my-own" and here's how it worked:

I painted with craft paint both sides of a hunk of tissue paper.

It bleed through some but no biggie. Also I got the sand side a little too yellow.

Then I folded it into a fan shape just like in elementary school.


Here's the part that I had to scratch my brain over, the cuts:

I thought the cuts would be hard to see so next to the real thing is the "training aid." A sharp blade is nessesary to get through ALL the folds.

Then I just unfolded it and rolled and crumpled it to get the proper look.


Once in place I wet the paper down to give it a droopy look but all the crinkles came out and it wanted to go back into it's original flat configuration.

I started again with regular copy paper and it looked much better, it has a "weight" to it. Alot tougher to cut though, I had to unfold and re-cut some areas.

So, there it is, maybe helpful to someone.

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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 06:51 AM UTC
Very interesting technique, Bryan.

I wonder how the net would look like on armor ... any pics for us?

Thanks for sharing and showing your idea.
Cheers
Walter
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 07:30 AM UTC
Nice idea Bryan.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:15 AM UTC
Cool. I was just contemplating the same problem. I was thinking of taking a piece of plastic bag, suitably painted, folding a few times and then cutting squiggly lines with a double blade. Trim off the edges and thread into some gauze.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 08:31 AM UTC
Bryan, you're the man! I was trying to figure out how to make one of these! I'm going to try you're idea out tonight,

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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 09:23 AM UTC
Very interesting indeed Sir!
Thanks for sharing!!
Cheers
Romain
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:24 PM UTC
Bryan,
Why didn't you come up with this a few months ago?
I've been working on a Canadian Leopard now for ages.I'm also cheap and wouldn't pay for AM turret and hull.After useless decals I went for Eduard baracuda nets that are working,but with the wasted money I could have just got the AM conversion.Exellent idea.

Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 12:58 PM UTC
or you could make a blade with a curved blade(or use a curved lathe tool) and lightly hammer through the paper to make the cuts semi circular cuts like the actual camo net . just a thought.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 01:23 PM UTC
Very interesting technique indeed!

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I wonder how the net would look like on armor ... any pics for us?


Agreed. Love to see how that looks...scale wise.


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or you could make a blade with a curved blade(or use a curved lathe tool)


Touche'!

Mike
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 04:32 AM UTC
Thanks guys! I hope it will come in handy! I placed some rolled scraps over a sherm I'm working on so you can see scale. My work space forman Otto wanted in the pic too. Rolled up they look good, unrolled though they are over scale, will hafta get smaller next time.


This is the project that I developed the net for.

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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 08:23 AM UTC
It's a good start and got people thinking of how to improve or adapt. That's always a good thing.
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 10:05 AM UTC
Bryan: Nice technique and a good scene you are working on there. Also, where did you get the portable toilet?

Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 04:33 PM UTC
Thanks Zon, I had to scratch build the port-a-john. Got some measurements on-line and took a few pics of one.
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 05:30 PM UTC
Bryan: Nice!! It looks dead on and is weathered just right.

Happy Modeling, - zon
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 07:16 PM UTC
Bryan, thanks for sharing the pics.

The camo nets look really nice but in my op. need some more "finesse" when placed on a detailed vehicle. If I look on the house-roof - they look quite right ;-)

... the toilet looks great!!

cheers
Walter
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 08:03 PM UTC

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Bryan: Nice technique and a good scene you are working on there. Also, where did you get the portable toilet?



Verlinden makes one in 1/35. Sorry for the off-topic.

Mario
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:44 PM UTC
Nice technique. I was just going to use crate paper, as it looks to be the correct scale and no further modifications are needed.
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:50 AM UTC
I wonder how Silkspan would work...or even the tissue that comes in Guillow's rubber band power kits? Both would be stronger than regular tissue but tougher and still be very thin.
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 - 03:41 AM UTC
Cool technique, this really does resemble the modern camo netting. I agree it needs a little weight, especially around the areas were the jetting touches the ground. Did you try a mixture of glue/water to see how it sets?
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 - 12:05 PM UTC
I did try to wet it some with elmers and water to get it to sag some, the curled up portions wanted to uncurl back into their original just cut configuration. They can be pulled back up with tweezers and pretty much stay put, just tedious.

Tissue paper does work good and surprisingly tough after painted. I have some aircraft tissue, when I paint it It looks more like fabric to me so I didn't try it. Now that you mention it though , it might be just the thing. I'll hafta give it a try next time. I'm gonna want to work in net on all my modern stuff now.

Thanks for the compliments on the toilet. It isn't every day one gets a compliment like that
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 - 06:02 PM UTC
I've seen a similar technique posted somewhere but can't remember, they used tissue and a half circle chisel tool to cut the paper. How wide did you make the folds
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 12:44 PM UTC
The paper was folded to about 3/16. I like the chisel idea too.
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 08:00 PM UTC

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I've seen a similar technique posted somewhere but can't remember, they used tissue and a half circle chisel tool to cut the paper.



Here you go

http://www.plasticwarfare.se/2007/10/how-to-make-realistic-barracuda-camouflage-netting-in-135/

HTH

Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2012 - 03:31 PM UTC

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Quoted Text

I've seen a similar technique posted somewhere but can't remember, they used tissue and a half circle chisel tool to cut the paper.



Here you go

http://www.plasticwarfare.se/2007/10/how-to-make-realistic-barracuda-camouflage-netting-in-135/

HTH

Frenchy



His method has great results. That's a lot of curly-cues to pound out and keep straight though. I'll try a hybrid method next time.
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