I've seen a number of references to the "Ken Abrams method" for painting tires... but search as I may, I can't seem to find any info on what this method is.
Anyone willing to share an overview or a link?
Thanks!
AFV Painting & Weathering
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Hosted by Darren Baker, Matthew Toms
What is the "Ken Abrams method"?
communityguy
#280
Joined: May 14, 2012
KitMaker: 493 posts
Armorama: 358 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 10:39 AM UTC
CDK
Joined: September 24, 2006
KitMaker: 358 posts
Armorama: 339 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 10:41 AM UTC
lol, I'd like to know myself!
I don't recall inventing anything.
I don't recall inventing anything.
didgeboy
Joined: September 21, 2010
KitMaker: 1,846 posts
Armorama: 1,509 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 10:58 AM UTC
Jake;
throw up some examples of where this was referenced.
throw up some examples of where this was referenced.
Bizarre
Joined: July 20, 2010
KitMaker: 1,709 posts
Armorama: 1,581 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 11:02 AM UTC
Ken, I've seen that in one of SMA update videos. It's when you dilute vallejo or other acrylics heavily with water and let the paint flow until the tire's rim. The paint is transparent, so you will have to go several times on each tire. But the surface looks very good afterwords, without any excess paint. 
CDK
Joined: September 24, 2006
KitMaker: 358 posts
Armorama: 339 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 11:05 AM UTC
Thanks Roman, now I get it!
Jake what Roman said, somewhere there's a video of me painting tires in the way he describes. It's not 'my' method, just something someone else taught me.
Jake what Roman said, somewhere there's a video of me painting tires in the way he describes. It's not 'my' method, just something someone else taught me.
spoons
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 527 posts
Armorama: 500 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 11:33 AM UTC
From know on its the "ken abrams method he learnt from some one else" method...sorry been watching monty python..
AgentG
Joined: December 21, 2008
KitMaker: 1,109 posts
Armorama: 1,095 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 01:51 PM UTC
Quoted Text
From know on its the "ken abrams method he learnt from some one else" method...sorry been watching monty python..
"Ken Abrams method he learned from someone else and plagerizingly published in a periodical" method.
Nhee!
G
Grumpyoldman
ConsigliereJoined: October 17, 2003
KitMaker: 15,338 posts
Armorama: 7,297 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 03:02 PM UTC
I thought it was a shot and a beer, and go for broke.
Ken Abrams method he learned from someone else, who learned it from someone else, who taught by someone else, that passed it along to someone else, preformed by the modeler formerly know as Ken, but now is know as someone else.
Ken Abrams method he learned from someone else, who learned it from someone else, who taught by someone else, that passed it along to someone else, preformed by the modeler formerly know as Ken, but now is know as someone else.
clovis899
#155
Joined: May 05, 2002
KitMaker: 774 posts
Armorama: 605 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 03:16 PM UTC
Sounds like it is time to break out the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch before this thread is overrun by killer rabbits!
collin26
Joined: March 24, 2007
KitMaker: 317 posts
Armorama: 259 posts
Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 04:33 PM UTC
No seriously, tell us more about it?
Are the wheels base colors in acrylic?
If so, will the water in the heavily thinned acrylic wash damage the acrylic base color?
If so, is there a lacquer or enamel barrier?
This is important stuff and will likely be very helpful. There are a good number of modelers who like to work in all acrylics.
Are the wheels base colors in acrylic?
If so, will the water in the heavily thinned acrylic wash damage the acrylic base color?
If so, is there a lacquer or enamel barrier?
This is important stuff and will likely be very helpful. There are a good number of modelers who like to work in all acrylics.
communityguy
#280
Joined: May 14, 2012
KitMaker: 493 posts
Armorama: 358 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 04:35 AM UTC
Gotcha! Great technique. I tried it the other day to paint panel dials on a constructed model that was hard to reach otherwise. Now I'm thinking about other areas to apply this technique!
HunterCottage
#116
Joined: December 19, 2001
KitMaker: 1,717 posts
Armorama: 629 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 08:01 AM UTC
Quoted Text
No seriously, tell us more about it?
Are the wheels base colors in acrylic?
If so, will the water in the heavily thinned acrylic wash damage the acrylic base color?
If so, is there a lacquer or enamel barrier?
This is important stuff and will likely be very helpful. There are a good number of modelers who like to work in all acrylics.
To answer your question:
The "Ken Abrams method he learned from someone else, who learned it from someone else, who taught by someone else, that passed it along to someone else, preformed by the modeler formerly know as Ken, but now is know as someone else." will in no way harm the underlying base coat if the base coat has had a proper amount of time to cure. Heavily thinned acrylics will only harm anything that is still wet and/or not cured.
Plasticbattle
#003
Joined: May 14, 2002
KitMaker: 9,763 posts
Armorama: 7,444 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:58 AM UTC
Ive been doing this for years with Humbrol enamels to get a good definition around rims. Never saw the videos or even knew of them, but Im sure glad to know what it is called.
Nice one Ken. 
Nice one Ken.
imatanker
Joined: February 11, 2011
KitMaker: 1,654 posts
Armorama: 1,565 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 02:22 PM UTC
And now for something completely different....
http://modellingarticles.blogspot.com/ Jeff T.
http://modellingarticles.blogspot.com/ Jeff T.
BBD468
Joined: March 08, 2010
KitMaker: 2,465 posts
Armorama: 2,383 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 05:44 AM UTC
Quoted Text
And now for something completely different....
http://modellingarticles.blogspot.com/ Jeff T.
Brother Jeff saves tha day!
Nice link bro!Jeff, You must return here with a....Shrubbery...or else you will never pass through this thread alive!!!
Gary
HunterCottage
#116
Joined: December 19, 2001
KitMaker: 1,717 posts
Armorama: 629 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 06:36 AM UTC
What is the average velocity of a Swallow?
imatanker
Joined: February 11, 2011
KitMaker: 1,654 posts
Armorama: 1,565 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 01:56 PM UTC
Ask and you shall recieve,oh Mighty Knight 
Jeff T.
Jeff T.
zontar
Joined: August 27, 2006
KitMaker: 1,646 posts
Armorama: 1,557 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 03:06 PM UTC
Quoted Text
What is the average velocity of a Swallow?
African, or European?
Happy Modeling, -zon
HunterCottage
#116
Joined: December 19, 2001
KitMaker: 1,717 posts
Armorama: 629 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 05:19 PM UTC
Jeff: You are officially my hero!!!
"Hear ye, Here ye all pay homage to King Jeff!!!!"
"Hear ye, Here ye all pay homage to King Jeff!!!!"
markchis
Joined: February 09, 2009
KitMaker: 467 posts
Armorama: 392 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 07:47 PM UTC
Ken-- KEN -- KEN
having a "method" is modeller demi-god status !
milk it until its dry Man!!
having a "method" is modeller demi-god status !
milk it until its dry Man!!
warreni
Joined: August 14, 2007
KitMaker: 5,926 posts
Armorama: 712 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 09:22 PM UTC
Ken Abrams is not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.
HunterCottage
#116
Joined: December 19, 2001
KitMaker: 1,717 posts
Armorama: 629 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 02:51 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextWhat is the average velocity of a Swallow?
African, or European?
Happy Modeling, -zon
Hope you understand why I'm not answering...
CDK
Joined: September 24, 2006
KitMaker: 358 posts
Armorama: 339 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Ken-- KEN -- KEN
having a "method" is modeller demi-god status !
milk it until its dry Man!!
HAHA!
Yeah but having a thread title with your name in it, is a bit unnerving. In fact, now that we've learned that it isn't 'mine', if a staff member would like to change the thread title, I would be forever grateful.
;)
...and just for clarification, that link above to Miguels' work doesn't describe the method in question. To explain it simply I paint my tires with several layers of thinned acrylic paint, which allows the paint to flow to the edge of the rim via capillary action, causing a tight joint with no paint on the rim, or over spray on the tire. Because it is a thin, wash like mixture, it takes several layers, although speeding it up with a hair dryer makes quick work of it.
CDK
Joined: September 24, 2006
KitMaker: 358 posts
Armorama: 339 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 03:49 AM UTC
Quoted Text
No seriously, tell us more about it?
Are the wheels base colors in acrylic?
If so, will the water in the heavily thinned acrylic wash damage the acrylic base color?
If so, is there a lacquer or enamel barrier?
This is important stuff and will likely be very helpful. There are a good number of modelers who like to work in all acrylics.
No. Yes. Hasn't yet. No.
...and stop perpetuating this Mr. Hamilton or the next time we attend a hockey game together, the gloves are off!
HunterCottage
#116
Joined: December 19, 2001
KitMaker: 1,717 posts
Armorama: 629 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 05:09 AM UTC
RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
 |
WEB HOSTING BY
Copyright ©2021 Armorama and Kitmaker Network, a subsidiary of Silver Star Enterprises
All Rights Reserved. Please read our Conditions of Use and Privacy Policy.
All Rights Reserved. Please read our Conditions of Use and Privacy Policy.