M113A3 OIF inspiration needed
Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 04:46 AM UTC
Hi!
I've been building a M113A3 from Academy OOB and is planing on adding stowage on the outside. The only problem is that i have absolutely no idea how it's suppose to look
. Therefore i was hoping that someone have some pictures which i can use for reference/inspiration. Here's some pictures of what i have done so far:
Thanks in advance
Jakob
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 05:48 AM UTC
Google is your friend.
As I recall,those racks were a field modification. They could also be seen on M2 Bradleys. In thoery, you could base your general stowage pattern off of those if M113 pictures are too hard to track down. Although I'm sure some guys will have some much better photos.
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 06:01 AM UTC
Repaint the hatches, none of that green should be showing
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 06:14 AM UTC
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Repaint the hatches, none of that green should be showing
Thx, have had trouble finding out which colors to use, does that apply to the aft ramp also or just the hatches on the roof?
Also thanks Aaron will look in to picture of the M2
Jakob
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 06:17 AM UTC
All of them, I would paint them the same sand color as the outside. Nice looking track though, I love 113's and have a few in various stages of construction. Lived in one for many a day, or month!
Rhone, France
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 06:41 AM UTC
I guess Legend's
LF1120 M113 OIF Stowage set set may be inspiring
H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 04:09 PM UTC
I bought the Legend stowage set a few years ago. It was a great add on!!
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 - 08:03 AM UTC
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I guess Legend's set may be inspiring
H.P.
Thanks Frenchy that set does look great whis i had one!
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All of them, I would paint them the same sand color as the outside. Nice looking track though, I love 113's and have a few in various stages of construction. Lived in one for many a day, or month!
From the beginning i thought that i was an odd looking vehicle but it has really grown on me and I’m definitely going to build another one, or more, if I ever get the time
Thought I would upload some Pictures of how it turned out. I’m going to add straps and some weathering should make the green colour look more militarish. Will also be adding some barracuda along the side and some razor wire.
Lastly does anyone know if the m113s in Iraq has anti-laser coating on the vision blocks and if that is the case would this work:
Jakob
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 - 08:15 AM UTC
Yes on the anti-laser coating on the vision blocks. Also, I would weather it a bit to blend it all in and make it look used. One other thing, the duffle bags and rucksaks should not be cammo. They come in overall medium green. Also, the covered rucksack should be three-tone desert camo. The sleeping bag stuff sack, behing the antenna on the right side, should be black. Lastly, your smoke grenade launchers have rubber caps on them which should be black as well.
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 - 08:46 AM UTC
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All of them, I would paint them the same sand color as the outside. Nice looking track though, I love 113's and have a few in various stages of construction. Lived in one for many a day, or month!
Your not the only one... Remember one time, were I slept on the left sponson, just next to my place at the drivers seat. I could just barely fit there... But it was better than sleeping in the drivers seat, with the head resting on the catch opening..
On the workbench:
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 - 08:56 AM UTC
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Yes on the anti-laser coating on the vision blocks. Also, I would weather it a bit to blend it all in and make it look used. One other thing, the duffle bags and rucksaks should not be cammo. They come in overall medium green. Also, the covered rucksack should be three-tone desert camo. The sleeping bag stuff sack, behing the antenna on the right side, should be black. Lastly, your smoke grenade launchers have rubber caps on them which should be black as well.
Thx! going to repaint them. I'we painted the caps now hadn't come around to painting them.
Jakob
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013 - 02:39 PM UTC
Very nice job on this vehicle!
JB
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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - 02:53 AM UTC
Yes yes grate work here!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 01:17 AM UTC
@J8kob_F: Great job on your M113. I might steal some of your ideas. Hope you don't mind. But I won't tell you
Ahhhh Frenchy, why did you have to link us to that place??!!!!(joking)
Just underneath the M113 link, there's another Leopard 2 AfterMarket (AM) that I'll have to get lol. I didn't need more of those sets and there you are, linking to one of them. I hate you, I hate you and I hate you again! (joking again petit cousin de l'autre côté de l'Atlantique
) hahhahaha.
I think you can guess that I'm about to build a Leopard 2A6M Canadian. It's funny, the one AM set I really want is the barracuda camo and I can't seem to find it in multi-parts.
I'm finishing a M163 and trying to fit in a M113 Verlinden AM interior with the engine. I don't expect much trouble since the Academy M163 Gatling turret doesn't go down very far inside so I think the Verlinden #2731 should fit in with a minimum of "fitting". I found this thread with google because I'm trying to find pictures of the engine so I can paint/weathering it.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 01:40 AM UTC
Hi Marco
I wish I were on Legend's payroll
If your M163 is based on the M113a2 chassis (early models were based on the M113A1), youl'll find a few pics engine pics here :
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/155693http://www.artuc.co/images/repairAndOverhaul.jpgIf you're using Verlinnen M113A1 engine, here's a nice M113A1 power pack view :
http://www.flanderstechsupply.com/images/Motor%20power%20pack%20M113.JPGHTH
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 02:09 AM UTC
Hey! Big thank you for the photos, but I warn you: the engine will be much dirtier than in the photo.
Well, I think this is the one. The one thing I hate if I have to try to jury-rigged something so that the transmission (en francais, c'est le differentiel je crois)reaches both tracks. Right now, there's about my little finger of empty space. I'll figure out something.
BTW, it's very poorly explained in the instructions and I've just noticed that 2 parts were glued standing up when they were supposed to be glued sideways and the front part were supposed to be glued on the body of the AFV.
Do you have a trick to unglue (cyanoacrylate Insta-cure +) without breaking the parts?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 04:30 AM UTC
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Looks pretty nice. Good job on the weathering. The only nit-pick I have is on the fuel/water cans you have used. The one strapped to the left rear and the grouping inside are WWII cans and are no longer used. Modern fuel and water cans are plastic.
Fuel can, comes in only this dark green-brown color
Water can, comes in sand, black, and (less common) dark green
Even the metal US water/fuel can you have in the left storage rack is really out of date. You can still see them from time to time though. So it isn't totally wrong.
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Showcase
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 06:27 AM UTC
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Looks pretty nice. Good job on the weathering. The only nit-pick I have is on the fuel/water cans you have used. The one strapped to the left rear and the grouping inside are WWII cans and are no longer used. Modern fuel and water cans are plastic.
And remember, if there's someone who knows his WWII cans, it's Gino. After all, he was there
marco
ps: just joking a little. @J8kob_F, excellent job but I would have loved to see it a bit dirtier. But it's only me. Once I finish mine, I'll make sure to post a couple of pic here.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 06:30 AM UTC
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The one thing I hate if I have to try to jury-rigged something so that the transmission (en francais, c'est le differentiel je crois)reaches both tracks. Right now, there's about my little finger of empty space. I'll figure out something.
Would this help ?
I guess some styrene rods (sprue trees) would do the trick...
H.P.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 06:31 AM UTC
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And remember, if there's someone who knows his WWII cans, it's Gino. After all, he was there
At times, it seems like I have been in the Army that long (19 years last month). But I wasn't in WWII.....
Field Artillery --- The KING of BATTLE!!!
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Showcase
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 06:40 AM UTC
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Looks pretty nice. Good job on the weathering. The only nit-pick I have is on the fuel/water cans you have used. The one strapped to the left rear and the grouping inside are WWII cans and are no longer used. Modern fuel and water cans are plastic.
Fuel can, comes in only this dark green-brown color
Water can, comes in sand, black, and (less common) dark green
Even the metal US water/fuel can you have in the left storage rack is really out of date. You can still see them from time to time though. So it isn't totally wrong.
Yeah i'm aware that they are a little old, it's only 60 years give or take
. The problem i had was getting hold of modern ones, is there a set out there? If so i guess it will go on the to do list.
Jakob
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 07:00 AM UTC
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The one thing I hate if I have to try to jury-rigged something so that the transmission (en francais, c'est le differentiel je crois)reaches both tracks. Right now, there's about my little finger of empty space. I'll figure out something.
Would this help ?
I guess some styrene rods (sprue trees) would do the trick...
H.P.
Yes, it helps a lot, Thank you
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 07:04 AM UTC
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The problem i had was getting hold of modern ones, is there a set out there? If so i guess it will go on the to do list.
Several resin sets are now available from Armorscale, Perfect Scale Modellbau, Real Models, ProArt...
HTH
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 07:17 AM UTC
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The problem i had was getting hold of modern ones, is there a set out there? If so i guess it will go on the to do list.
Several resin sets are now available from Armorscale, Perfect Scale Modellbau, Real Models, ProArt...
HTH
H.P.
Thanks the PSM one looks really good. Will have to order some.
Jakob
