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Build Log:"Komm und nimm es dir!"Diorama

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 07:57 PM UTC

Hi all! Similar with the previous build story, I design a topic as a additional reference from my finished diorama on "Komm und nimm es dir!(Come & Get It!)" Diorama. Actually, this topic was also a build story and I think such historical log will be useful for anyone of you that decide to start how to build a simple diorama especially by using a couple amount of scrap materials (againn

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Ok, just take a look and really can't wait for your valuable comments!

I also use a simple wooden photo frame which its' size considerately suitable for my diorama plan. In order to not wasting time too much, removal of its' back cover, standing platform, instruction sheet, and any unneeded materials was performed. Don't forget to always remember that better to keep them for unexpected use in the future rather than throw them away into trash bin

Those pictures above shows that I used several layer of used sprues in order to made the ground base became stronger and higher than without them. After that, I covered such layers with ex-used carton sheet from mineral water packages.

I will continue post this story ASAP due to my unfinished Sunday afternoon home's neighborhood tasks

Cheers

Garry

Cobra1972

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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2013 - 12:52 AM UTC

Looking forward to following this one

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2013 - 04:50 AM UTC

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Looking forward to following this one

Hello again Mick,

When back from my office after do my overtime, the clock currently point out at 11.45 PM in Jakarta when I wrote this reply

Oh no, I'm really sorry since my eyes don't want to negotiate for more

I will continue it ASAP

Thank you for following this build story, Mick!

Best regards

Garry

velotrain

Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2013 - 04:58 AM UTC

Hello Garry my friend -

I'd just like to give you a friendly reminder on being more selective / careful regarding your base materials. I'm a big fan of found objects and recycling, but you got yourself into trouble with "Wait for my Command" because you used recycled cardboard for the sidewalk stones, but these got soaked from your adhesive and then became quite warped. You don't want any material that soaks up moisture adjacent to a wet layer. If you want, you can try sealing with a spray shellac or polyurethane or something else.

I'd also be careful in using those sprues under cheap (not thick, not stiff, moisture-absorbent) cardboard, as if you press down at any point during the build, you've got an uneven backing layer that could shape whatever you have on top, and with enough moisture a point on the sprue might even poke through the cardboard.

You have a tremendous amount of energy in doing so many dios in such a short time, but I think it would be valuable for you to sit down after each one, make notes on what went well and what didn't, things to try and or avoid next time, and really work on bringing your "self-grade" up a notch each time.

I hope there isn't too much of a language barrier in all that.

Onward and upward. I think the Japanese started the concept of "continuous improvement", or maybe they were just the most successful at marketing it.

Charles

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 03:46 AM UTC

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Hello Garry my friend -

I'd just like to give you a friendly reminder on being more selective / careful regarding your base materials. I'm a big fan of found objects and recycling, but you got yourself into trouble with "Wait for my Command" because you used recycled cardboard for the sidewalk stones, but these got soaked from your adhesive and then became quite warped. You don't want any material that soaks up moisture adjacent to a wet layer. If you want, you can try sealing with a spray shellac or polyurethane or something else.

I'd also be careful in using those sprues under cheap (not thick, not stiff, moisture-absorbent) cardboard, as if you press down at any point during the build, you've got an uneven backing layer that could shape whatever you have on top, and with enough moisture a point on the sprue might even poke through the cardboard.

You have a tremendous amount of energy in doing so many dios in such a short time, but I think it would be valuable for you to sit down after each one, make notes on what went well and what didn't, things to try and or avoid next time, and really work on bringing your "self-grade" up a notch each time.

I hope there isn't too much of a language barrier in all that.

Onward and upward. I think the Japanese started the concept of "continuous improvement", or maybe they were just the most successful at marketing it.

Charles

Nice input Charles, many thanks!

Of course yes, I hope that I understand about what you mean by replying this post. Regarding to my recent two build stories, I just want to share that all of my performed steps, full with trial and errors. Every word you remind me are: correct, such as:
- Usage of soakable cardboard --> correct
- Overused of sprues --> correct
- Wasting time & energy --> correct
- Continuously improves --> also correct!

Regarding the trial and error issues, I already realize that several steps may had too many losses than their benefits and I already noted it, too. From your such valuable reminder also give me some fresh other perspectives and manner of diorama building efficiently and effectively in the future

Thanks again Charles and I hope my understanding as stated above didn't conduct any misinterpretations

Best regards from Indonesia

Garry

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 05:03 PM UTC

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Looking forward to following this one
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I will continue it ASAP
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Hi all, I continue to write this build story and my deepest apology to Mick since I told that this topic will be continued ASAP, but not happen at all in the real world

No more words I could say, just enjoy the continuation of this build history as follows:

Soon after the overall sprue layers covered by the carton sheet, I isolated the edge of the frame by using a masking tape in order to protect them when modelling clay start to cover the base in the further step.

After that, I covered the base with modelling clay that widely spread over it in order to add some height of the represented terrain. After this step being evaluated by myself, honestly I have to tell that such step was useless since it means work inefficiently. It became a valuable lesson for me for another project.

I designed the rough sketch on a paper sheet, perform a brief layout test of the diorama items, and representing it directly at the base.

Not yet finished and I will continue it later. Enjoy!

Best regards

Garry

lespauljames

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Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 09:02 AM UTC

thats quite an in depth plan,! although i wouldnt use cardboard for your base, if you get it wet from paint e.t.c it will warp. packing foam, like what you get in TV boxes, with plaster atop to smooth it is a much safer choice, or styrofoam, or sheet plastic, just a few thoughts to help you with your work.

James

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013 - 10:24 AM UTC

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thats quite an in depth plan,! although i wouldnt use cardboard for your base, if you get it wet from paint e.t.c it will warp. packing foam, like what you get in TV boxes, with plaster atop to smooth it is a much safer choice, or styrofoam, or sheet plastic, just a few thoughts to help you with your work.

James

Hello James, thanks for your sharing, this build history actually shows how many trial and errors I have!

Also, lot of lessons for me about unefficiency of using cardboard. I will consider the usage of materials that you suggested for the future work

Cheers

Garry

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 11:11 AM UTC

Hi all, I continue to write this build story and just enjoy, again, the continuation of this build history as follows:

Those pictures displayed above showed about what I call for "Modular System", in which allow me to create particular details of those 2 major parts of the base (the columned pavement and the semi-squared one) and install them later by following the sketch design.

After that, I start to perform on building blocks of the wall that planned to be partially broken caused by artillery/tank shot. By using ex-used ice cream sticks, I carefully deal for such step.

While I wait for the drying up session of the previous step, I have to ensure that all of the 'sink holes' left over the overall body of the base were fixed by using DAS modelling clay.

After that, from those pictures above, I carefully start to cover the wall building blocks, also with DAS modelling clay, and shaping them later as smooth as possible in order to make a smooth installment of the wall tile.

Just like my previous build, I perform the rectangled cobblestones by install them one by one in order to make them appear as natural as possible

In the future, I may leave such technique due to unefficiently usage of time and I will start to practice for scribing

Finally... Voila! Those pictures above shows the final result of the base preparation and I could say about 95% of such preparation was finished

Cheers

Garry

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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 12:12 PM UTC

Very promising start Garry!!

Will follow this for sure!

Cheers

Romain

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 12:27 PM UTC

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Very promising start Garry!!

Will follow this for sure!

Cheers

Romain

Thanks for your very kind comments, Romain

Actually, this is a "build story" rather than a "build log" as I stated in my first post. I create this topic since I think such story may be useful for anyone that have interest to start how to build a simple diorama. Hmm... not a perfect story of course, many trial and errors I have, so any constructive corrections and critics are welcome

Have a nice modelling day, Romain!

Cheers

Garry

lespauljames

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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 01:43 PM UTC

Garry I like your road bricks. The pattern came out nice.

All_You_Can_Kit

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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 06:18 PM UTC

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Garry I like your road bricks. The pattern came out nice.

Thank you, James! Glad to hear that you like it. In the future, I will try more efficient way by scribing to deal with the road bricks or cobblestones

Cheers

Garry

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