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sgirty
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 02:44 PM UTC
Hi. I see that this site had a user of the month award. If it had a dumb a-- award I do think I would surely be in the running, most probably being the winner.

A couple weeks ago I got in a set of Fruilmodel track links for Dragon's Elefant kit. Lovely. So today I start assembling. As any of you know who have worked with these tracks, the links usually come in two bags. One for the left side of the vehicle and one for the right, no instruction provided. I guess they figure if you opt to buy these track links, you have the references and common sense to build them correctly. Not so today for this child!

So anway, I open up a bag and start to get with it. Pinning and cutting wire and stopping every so often and add a drop of CA to the end of each wire to hold it in place. Well after I've built about 3/4 of a run of links I begin to notice that none of these things have any guide teeth on them. I look at the other bag and I see that they all have guide teeth.So I figure I got one bag that just didn't have the teeth formed. Well, I get kind fo upset, but that's just the way things go sometimes. Although I've never had this kind of problem with this maker's tracks before.

Then I got out some books on this vehicle and begin to look closely at it's track and start to notice that the guide teeth are just on very other link!! So in a nutshell, I've built almost one entire run of one kind of link!!!

Now comes the job of trying to remove all those glue-in pins without damaging the track. I've done this before just to remove a single link if said track is just a tad too long once I put it on the finished vehicle, but NEVER this many.

Luckily on this track design there is something of a 'duck-bill' protrusion on the side where the wire goes in and so there's just a bit of wire sticking out after it's been cut off even with the side of the track link. Evidently the model gods decided to give this poor child a break today for his ignorance, and I was able to remove about 90% of the pins without damaging the track. And about 5% with just some slight damage. And I did lose about 8 or so links that had to be totally written off.

Once I began to rebuild the tracks, correctly this time, and counting the remaining pieces I see that I will more than likely have more than enough links to do both sides. Man I'm going to pay for this kind of luck some place down the line, I just know it.

So a friendly word of advice for those out there who would like to build a set of these tracks for this vehicle, please engage brain and check references before using hands. Or then, maybe, just maybe, the main problem would be that I didn't take the time to do this myself. Better make a note of this and add it to the door above the work bench, in big bright letters.

Live well and hopefully remember to learn...Take care, sgirty #:-)
WeWillHold
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:20 PM UTC
Sgirty:

Quite a story ----- and we're all glad you could salvage most of the links.

I just received Friul's T34-85 links yesterday and it was the same deal for me. All the guide teeth links in one bag, no teeth links in the other.

Took me a couple minutes, (and a beer), to calm myself before I figured it out

Good luck on your Elefant build.

ps: I don't even want to think what a "Dumb A" medal would look like :-) :-)
StukeSowle
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 05:16 PM UTC
Classic..thanks for sharing.

I have been guilty on more than one occasion of putting on tracks backwards. No matter how many times I tell myself to be careful and pay attention, I get in a hurry and put them on wrong. Only to notice after the glue has set.
Oberst
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 05:27 PM UTC
While I have always followed that advice, good story!



Andrew
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 05:56 PM UTC
I have a dumb S$#T list I keep on my workbench bulletin board...I need to be reminded on how to do certain proceedures, and to be PATIENT...you know, let things dry, don't rush it...SIGH...

At least the list is not TOO long...
greatbrit
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 08:02 PM UTC
hehe,
thats why i use rubber strip tracks in the kit!
or AFV club plastic ones, no need to glue them!

cheers
joe
RotorHead67
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 08:05 PM UTC
OH yesss,
I know there is not one sole here who hasn't had one of these moments.
CASE IN POINT:
I'm a new member, and was just tickled pink when I saw the grapevine news of an upcoming campaigm "DEATH FROM ABOVE". Me being an ARMY crewchief has BLED ALL into my love of the hobby of smelting plastics and the SMELL OF ZAP AND RESIN in the morning. SO I enlist into this said campaign, and work has been going great......until on the latest night of model bliss.
I'm building an OH-58A from ESCI @$^#@%*^ shoulda hit the trashcan KIT, when my last installment braught me to the construction of the ROTORHEAD hmmm sounds familiar for some reason, After scrutinizing the plastic parts that become hubs and blades w/ control tubes, the great santini determines that the blades will break off if he xlows on them after they are built.............so to the styrene closet we go. i removed all the whimppy plastic parts and replaced them w/ new rod and brass wire to give said ROTORHEAD a fighting chance when it leaves the table for ITS check ride.
So using my OPTIVISOR for the sake of age, I drill new holes ,add new rod, get it all painted, and set it off on the side to dry and then.....TODD gets a VISION.....HMM those blades dont look right., how in the %#$$*%^ are they supposed to work like that.?
After all of my back patting was over.....I relised I had installed the control tubes(brass wire) straight into the rotor hubs and not onto the ends of the PITCH change horns.
WELL SGT MILLER we are sorry to inform you that YOU ARE A NO GO @ THIS STATION !!!!
All that time in the work and the fact that it's so tiny and fragile I dont think I will be able to break it apart and build it like a HELICOPTER is supposed to be built.
OH WELL Live and learn.
capnjock
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2003 - 01:52 AM UTC
I still think our hobby is a test to see how well and how many times we can recover from major OOPS's. And the test does not end until we pass into the Great Beyond. Sigh!
capnjock
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