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Warrior Update
jimbrae
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:09 PM UTC
Excellent news for modern British armour modellers. Academy has updated its Warrior ICV. No longer will it be necessary to spend large amounts of cash on the Cromwell or AA updates (in theory at least). There will be a small report in the news section soon along with some pictures...Jim
Maki
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:18 PM UTC
Come on, I'd like to know more... what do the updates include? Will there be an interior in the new model? Anyway, I already spent a small fortune on AA updates... :-)
Mario M.
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:20 PM UTC
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. Academy has updated its Warrior ICV.
I'm glad that I installed some new shelves in one of my rooms a week ago - it almost doubled my model kit boxes storage capacity.
For the last month I had to suspend my purchases because I had no place to store new boxes. I have a plenty of room now - so, where can I order this new Warrior? 
Rgds,
Pawel
jimbrae
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:21 PM UTC
Maki, I'm sorry, I only got some pics from the Academy (german) website. There was no more info. available. It is on sale though, Tristar models in HK has it in their catalogue. Sorry for being so vague, Jim
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:36 PM UTC
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Maki, I'm sorry, I only got some pics from the Academy (german) website. There was no more info. available. It is on sale though, Tristar models in HK has it in their catalogue. Sorry for being so vague, Jim
Hmmm... I just checked Tristar and they only have the old, regular Academy 1365 model listed there. On German Academy site I was also not able to find anything else but the old Warrior.
Rgds,
Pawel
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 03:39 AM UTC
Here are the two photos I have:
The differences betweeen the original Warrior and the new version can be seen, sorry I don't have any more information, JIm
The differences betweeen the original Warrior and the new version can be seen, sorry I don't have any more information, JIm
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 03:45 AM UTC
Jim - I just sent you a PM. I have formatted and gotten your News Article ready to be published, but there is a syntax error that pops-up when I attempt to "publish" it to the Site. I've called in Jim and Bryan for assistance in clearing up the issue.
HARV
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:04 AM UTC
Thank you for the information. I appreciate how everyone on this site shares news and information. Thanks again. 
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:06 AM UTC
Sorry, but I see nothing new in photos above. This is still old (good?) Academy kit. I see no changes from the old kit! 
I will need to take a look at the old kit (which is somewhere on my box pile) to be sure...
Rgds,
Pawel
I will need to take a look at the old kit (which is somewhere on my box pile) to be sure...
Rgds,
Pawel
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:11 AM UTC
Vodnik, I am in total agreement with you... There is something not right about the front bins, what I saw on Academy's site confirms this, I'm sorry if I got it wrong, It looks as if it is a re-release and not a re-worked hull, once again, apologies. Just shows you that 6 years of high-school German is not much use after all....Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:24 AM UTC
This is what a modern Warrior should look like. My profound aplogies for wasting people's time with my erroneous information.....Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:35 AM UTC
News Article?!? What News Article???
ptruhe
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:38 AM UTC
It's still good to see this kit re-released. The nose armour and transmission bulges are the biggest correction along with the missing front tow hook. The missing addon armor mount points can probably be scratchbuilt.
They probably didn't correct the sinkholes in the periscopes.
Paul
They probably didn't correct the sinkholes in the periscopes.
Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 05:26 AM UTC
I took a look at my old Warrior kit a moment ago and noticed that pictures on the box even show the same model as pictures Jim posted above. Very good work for a "demo" model I must say - nice realistic weathering.
And I don't think we can call it the re-release. I believe that this model was available non-stop since it was first released. I bought mine from Hannants (UK) several months ago, and I saw it many times in local shops here in Poland, so it looks that in Europe it was never discontinued.
Lets hope that someone from Academy noticed this thread - the enthusiasm we shown at first, suggests that new upgraded Warrior kit would sell very well
Rgds,
Pawel
And I don't think we can call it the re-release. I believe that this model was available non-stop since it was first released. I bought mine from Hannants (UK) several months ago, and I saw it many times in local shops here in Poland, so it looks that in Europe it was never discontinued.
Lets hope that someone from Academy noticed this thread - the enthusiasm we shown at first, suggests that new upgraded Warrior kit would sell very well
Rgds,
Pawel
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:49 AM UTC
Vodnik,
will you be doing yours as one of the warriors which comes up to Poland for Ex
Ulan Eagle? :-)
will you be doing yours as one of the warriors which comes up to Poland for Ex
Ulan Eagle? :-)
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:20 PM UTC
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will you be doing yours as one of the warriors which comes up to Poland for Ex
Ulan Eagle? :-)
I don't know yet. I think those Warriors don't have the additional armor installed (as they usually don't during exercise) and I want to use these parts on my model. I have the update parts set from Cromwell and there is older style additional front armor section in this set, so my choices can be limited. I would like to build IFOR vehicle, but they had newer front armor. So either I modify this part, or will need to build classic Op. Granby vehicle.
Rgds,
Pawel
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:39 PM UTC
Wheather its the old kit or a release of a modified kit, I still am glad to see it back in circulation. Sometimes you know when it comes out, you should buy more than one, but
we never do!!!!! Then it's gone and it''s too late.
we never do!!!!! Then it's gone and it''s too late.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:41 PM UTC
Dear Todd when they come out all of us wanna buy 2-3- or more but ...due to money shortness and tons of other stuff you buy one or..none heheheh unfortunately our hobby is one more of them that eat money one way or another ...
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:06 AM UTC
Here's a better one...Jim
ptruhe
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 03:20 AM UTC
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I have the update parts set from Cromwell and there is older style additional front armor section in this set, so my choices can be limited. I would like to build IFOR vehicle, but they had newer front armor.
What is the newer style front armor? I've seen several pics of Warrior in Op Granby that didn't have the tow hook mounted on the front armour but other than that I don't see any difference.
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 03:25 AM UTC
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What is the newer style front armor? I've seen several pics of Warrior in Op Granby that didn't have the tow hook mounted on the front armour but other than that I don't see any difference.
As far as I know, tow hook was not mounted on Warriors in Op Granby... apparently it was first used on IFOR vehicles.
Mario M.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 03:44 AM UTC
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What is the newer style front armor? I've seen several pics of Warrior in Op Granby that didn't have the tow hook mounted on the front armour but other than that I don't see any difference.
Paul, That's exactly what I meant. Probably the armor block itself is indeed the same, but the installation of tow hook changed this part significantly - originally the "pocket" was welded directly to the armor block, or possibly it was even one part with it, as there was no seam visible between these parts. Now these parts are separated by tow hook and its mounting brackets. It probably is easy to modify the Cromwell part I have and add tow hook to it, but I don't have good close up pictures of those mounting brackets.
Rgds,
Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 03:55 AM UTC
Mario,
You're right. I assumed that it might be used in OP Granby because the AA set includes the tow hook but I'm sure the set is intended for a broader time period.
Pawel,
If you want to scratch the hook then I'll see if I can find any good shots between the Darlington and Concord books. Here is a good shot from one angle at Full Metal Jacket:
http://fullmetaljacket.tanxheaven.com/war/ifv11.jpg
Full gallery:
http://fullmetaljacket.tanxheaven.com/war/war.html
I thought I had read somewhere that the side armor panels need to be moved forward a little bit. Anybody else read anything about this?
Paul
You're right. I assumed that it might be used in OP Granby because the AA set includes the tow hook but I'm sure the set is intended for a broader time period.
Pawel,
If you want to scratch the hook then I'll see if I can find any good shots between the Darlington and Concord books. Here is a good shot from one angle at Full Metal Jacket:
http://fullmetaljacket.tanxheaven.com/war/ifv11.jpg
Full gallery:
http://fullmetaljacket.tanxheaven.com/war/war.html
I thought I had read somewhere that the side armor panels need to be moved forward a little bit. Anybody else read anything about this?
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 04:11 AM UTC
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Darlington and Concord
I have the Concord book, but don't remember seeing a good picture of this area there.
Rgds,
Pawel
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 08:55 PM UTC
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[I have the Concord book, but don't remember seeing a good picture of this area there.
I took a look at pitures in the Concord and Europa Militaria books yestreday and decided that actually pictures there are clear enough to allow for modification of the front armor and adding the tow hook. So my Warrior may end as IFOR vehicle after all
Rgds,
Pawel
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