absolutely, we use what is referred as a concentric hydro-spring recoil system same concept for most guns but you are correct Chieftains i believe, the recoil system is based off compressed air and again hydraulics acting as a dampener so i believe to knock the gun out of battery wouldn't you also need to relieve the air pressure maybe draining the fluid also some how relieves the air pressure or the last round forces it all out most likely, but remember you Brits lead the way in tank development and the hydro-pneumatic recoil system being one of them.

One thing to remember is the recoil system is spring operated, hydraulic assisted, the spring or springs do all the work the hydraulics do nothing more than prevent the harsh and sharp metal on metal contact that occurs during firing and recoil, it acts as a dampener so to speak. With that in mind it would take more than one round to take the gun out of battery which is what would eventually occur and coming out of battery is far more dramatic than going to full recoil and staying there coming out of battery would result in the gun braking out its mount and slam into the rear wall or in the case of the panther the shell catch basket which will promptly break and any crew member in the turret will quickly wish he wasn't. if you just drained the fluid and fire the gun just once it would fail to return completely to battery which is different and may not even be noticed by the crew but would effect accuracy and i certainly would not fire anther round as its only a matter of rounds before the gun breaks from its mount. knowing this, it leads me to believe when we see guns out of battery or in full recoil something else was done namely with the spring or the actuator rods. Not saying German crews were not instructed to drain the fluid and fire a round in the direction of the enemy but in reality all it dose is sabotage the gun for the next owner, a far easier solution is to remove the firing pin

Damper, not dampener. A bit of a pet peeve of mine.

Something that resists flow/movement/energy transfer is a damper.
Something that makes something moist is a dampener.

You may also add "loose" for "lose"...

Seriously, thanks for all the responses guys, I learned a lot more than what I asked for.

Now for the math part

430mm at 1/35 scale works out to be 12.29mm or 1.23cm. Do I understand it correctly that this is the length that I need to take off at that scale? Or would there be any considerations I need to be aware of? And Paul, by "slanted" you meant, "elevated"?

Cheers,

Tat

You may also add "loose" for "lose"...

Seriously, thanks for all the responses guys, I learned a lot more than what I asked for.

Now for the math part

430mm at 1/35 scale works out to be 12.29mm or 1.23cm. Do I understand it correctly that this is the length that I need to take off at that scale? Or would there be any considerations I need to be aware of? And Paul, by "slanted" you meant, "elevated"?

Cheers,

Tat

By 'slanted', I believe that the gun is basically off it's rails, so it can be at a number of various angles that you wouldn't see otherwise.

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By 'slanted', I believe that the gun is basically off it's rails, so it can be at a number of various angles that you wouldn't see otherwise.

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That is what I meant, now I´m going "break" open a crate
of beer as I do not have to work tomorrow.

Paul

you could also do the muzzle end peeled back like a banana...

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