Hi to you all.
Since I am new to this forum/site, let me introduce myself.
My name is René Snoek, i'm 49 years old (not yet showing) and I live in the Netherlands.
Since a couple of years (on and off)I am in the process of building a Bergepanther in the somewhat odd scale of 1/25.
Maybe later i can tell why I build in this scale, but for now I have a question; Is there, or are there line drawings available of the transmission of the panther tank, so i can try to build one for my model.
As soon as I can find out how, I will post some pictures of my progress so far.
regards René
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fuselier63
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Posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 03:30 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 08:02 AM UTC
Welcome to Armorama! I don't know about drawings, but you could always buy a 1:35 resin transmission (Tiger Model Design does one, see newtmd.com) and measure off it to scale up to 1:25 for your copy.
fuselier63
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Posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 08:24 AM UTC
Thanks for the reply.
Yes I thought of that to, but to spent an rather large amound of cash on a model part that I don'have the intention of using on an actual model seems a bit of a waste.
René
(still trying to find out how to post pictures. They're in my gallery)
Yes I thought of that to, but to spent an rather large amound of cash on a model part that I don'have the intention of using on an actual model seems a bit of a waste.
René
(still trying to find out how to post pictures. They're in my gallery)
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Posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 09:12 AM UTC
Just trying to post apicture.
First time you know.
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Posted: Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 03:37 AM UTC
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Hello Rene!
Do You know 1-25 Scale Armor Forum?
Here You find more answer for Your Questions.
Gallery of 1-25 scale Bergepanther by Sicore .
You can adopt interior from Bandai 1-24 scale panther too.
Good luck, welcome to us, Piterpanzer
Piotr, If Rene feels that paying $40+ for a 1/35 resin interior just to get the transmission in order to use it to scratch a 1/25 one, he'd be even less enthusiastic about shelling out over $200 for a Bandai kit for basically one part.
fuselier63
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Posted: Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 05:22 AM UTC
Piotr, If Rene feels that paying $40+ for a 1/35 resin interior just to get the transmission in order to use it to scratch a 1/25 one, he'd be even less enthusiastic about shelling out over $200 for a Bandai kit for basically one part.
Hi Joseph and Piotr, I just was abouth thinking the same thing.
Funny thing is; I was not even aware that Bandai ever released a 1/24 scale Panther tank, so I went for a little search on the internet. And what do you think; one was for sale right here in Holland, but at a price of 350 euro I thought it was a bit overpriced. (marktplaats.nl Advertentie 629326909) I also learned that it's not the best of kits.
With fit and dimensional problems etc.
You see, new to Armorama and already learning something
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Posted: Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 06:44 AM UTC
I might have some photos and dimensions of the steering gear and gear box. If I find them, I'll send them to you. You'll need to break out a calculator and do some re-scaling of the photos to match the dimensions in 1:25 scale, though. It's not that hard; I've scratchbuilt a number of things using that method.
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Posted: Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 08:50 AM UTC
That might be helpful, looking forward for them.
Thanks in advance.
René
Thanks in advance.
René
fuselier63
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Posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 - 07:04 AM UTC
This is my first picture of my progress so far.
Just to see if it works (placing pictures)
Any coment welcome
René
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Posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 - 07:08 AM UTC
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Piotr, If Rene feels that paying $40+ for a 1/35 resin interior just to get the transmission in order to use it to scratch a 1/25 one, he'd be even less enthusiastic about shelling out over $200 for a Bandai kit for basically one part.
I don`t agree with You.
Yes, for sure spend money for 1-35, only for rescale is ridiculous if you`re 1-25 scale fun and You have alternative in the form of even an imperfect 1-25 scale model.
Regards Piter
fuselier63
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Posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 - 07:10 AM UTC
And because it workes (albeid a litlle small) here's also one looking at the inside.
Still a work in progress.
René
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Posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 - 09:24 AM UTC
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Piotr, If Rene feels that paying $40+ for a 1/35 resin interior just to get the transmission in order to use it to scratch a 1/25 one, he'd be even less enthusiastic about shelling out over $200 for a Bandai kit for basically one part.
I don`t agree with You.
Yes, for sure spend money for 1-35, only for rescale is ridiculous if you`re 1-25 scale fun and You have alternative in the form of even an imperfect 1-25 scale model.
Regards Piter
The Bandai kit is basically crap and there are enough inaccuracies with the interior which would be reason enough not to buy it. It was crap when I bought one years ago for $27; now, it's overpriced crap being sold at over $200 on evilBay and other places. Again, it makes absolutely no sense to spend that kind of money for one inaccurate part. So, let's say Rene loses his mind and actually buys one for $200+. He finds that the steering unit and gearbox are pretty much as I described: junk. What's he going to do, perform major surgery by accurizing the parts which cost an arm and a leg to begin with? That's even worse than buying a 1/35 resin part to use as a reference to scratchbuild one in 1/25.
Since Rene obviously has the talent for scrachbuilding, it would be much cheaper, and smarter, to make one himself. Let some other sucker piss away good money on a bad kit.
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Posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 - 07:31 PM UTC
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Since Rene obviously has the talent for scrachbuilding, it would be much cheaper, and smarter, to make one himself. Let some other sucker piss away good money on a bad kit. [/quote]
I agree with You,
but other way if You do only 1-25 scale, everybody would like to have in his collection oldies models, remember that today they`re inaccurate.Hobbyist as a rule, pay more than the item is worth.
Rene, it look great, wait for next pics.
regards to all Piterpanzer
P.S. At last time i do test built of 1-25 scale turret to T34-76 112 zav.
relation here
Since Rene obviously has the talent for scrachbuilding, it would be much cheaper, and smarter, to make one himself. Let some other sucker piss away good money on a bad kit. [/quote]
I agree with You,
but other way if You do only 1-25 scale, everybody would like to have in his collection oldies models, remember that today they`re inaccurate.Hobbyist as a rule, pay more than the item is worth.
Rene, it look great, wait for next pics.
regards to all Piterpanzer
P.S. At last time i do test built of 1-25 scale turret to T34-76 112 zav.
relation here
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Posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 - 07:42 PM UTC
Did you try contacting some museums? I would suggest the WTS in Koblenz (A "study collection" of the german armed forces), Munster, Saumur and Bovington. They all have running Panthers so they might have the plans and be willing to send photocopies.
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Posted: Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 07:33 AM UTC
I did, and Bovington sent me some real nice info, not sure if i can use it right away. But they wher very helpful.
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