Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:55 AM UTC
Hi there
I'm hoping someone can shed a bit more light on a technique mentioned in "General" topics; namely using pastel with thinners.
I've use pastels dry for years - they're one of my favourite ways of weathering aircraft - but I've never used them "wet".
Do you have any advice for someone new to this technique? Is it suitable for overall washes or better for localized effects (rust etc)?
Any help would be great.
Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 10:05 AM UTC
Rowan, I've never used them wet too... I use them in a kind of "semi-wet" way: i brush a bit of isopropylic alchool on the area and then (when still humid) I apply the dry pastels. It always worked fine for me...
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Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:24 AM UTC
Hi Fabio
I'm intrigued by the idea of a "pastel wash" - but it sounds like a recipe for serious "tide-marks".
The semi-wet technique sounds as though it makes the pastels stick better than my usual bone-dry method. I'm going to try it on exhausts etc. :-)
Cheers
Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:35 AM UTC
I went over how I employ the water pastel technique in this thread:
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Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 12:24 PM UTC
Cheers Gunnie
That does help! :-) Do you use this technique for temporary winter camouflage too? (That seems like an immediate possiblity for aircraft models...)
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:21 AM UTC
Hi there Merlin .
i ve also used the pastel wash with powdered pastels in a mix of pure alcohol or enamel thiner and worked just fine . It depends on the place you will use them on how wet or dry the mixture is , but after some experimenting works pretty well.
As far the temp winter camo you ask for, if you mean the lime look white camo, i ve used matt white enamel thinned over 50 - 60 % and checking every time how much paint is left on the vehicle. Usually was made with water thinned lime and mops or other brush-like stuff, the crew men could find in between their running for save!!! i ve used it on some German armored behicles and worked just fine and very realistic
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:23 AM UTC
i think that the pastel method will not be good looking for this kind of camo as the particles are rather big and show ugly
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 08:54 AM UTC
Hi Major Goose
Thanks for the advice. :-)
I do mainly 1/48 scale aircraft and was thinking of the temporary winter finish used by the Luftwaffe. How this was applied varied - it could be sprayed or brushed on.
Your point about particle size is the key to whether this would work or not in this scale.
Cheers
Rowan
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