Oh, my. ANOTHER Dragon Pz. IV. A DAK D, no less. Cannot deny that the D makes a nice Pz. IV kit, and the D did figure in DAK, so...

Actually, I kinda like this - a modern D is needed (I think your D choice among DML Pz. IV kits otherwise was / is that CH D with vorpanzer - which does not, so I believe - include any or maybe most tropen features of this mark. So this is a move into a newish realm - DAK IV.

I do have a quibble. I don't like those DS tracks. Dragon has the right magic tracks for this version, so why not include them? Maybe by doing so they could sell ME and others like ME one of these kits!

Bob

I have the edition with the magic tracks. Although the road wheels axle(?) is not any where near the one's shown in the instructions making the road wheels too big to fit. Yes, I triple checked my kit and my dry fit. I love tanks but the amount of time a dragon kit takes to build is making me question buying the brand. Nice detail it really is and I agree the DS is not quite up to snuff. Good luck mine is being tucked away for winter.

I actually prefer to see the DS tracks. I normally end up getting metal tracks anyway for a build, and DS tracks at least leave me the option of a "easier" build.

I like the DS tracks as well. I seem to move righ along on Dragon kits until I hit the tracks. Then I lose interest. Lots of trackless panzers in the basement. I wished they would start selling the DS ones seperately and make them more widely available.

If individual tracks are an obstacle, there are many techniques on the internet that speed the build and improve the results. Nothing will probably ever completely relieve the boredom of even minor cleanup of approximately 200 identical pieces, but the techniques on the internet can make the difference between frustration and satisfaction.

Hi, All! I like the DS Tracks, too. I can simulate some "track sag" with the application of a little bit of cyano-glue on UNDERSIDES of the top run on the tracks. This, in-between the sprockets, upper rollers and idler. Too much track sag would throw a track very easily. US tank kits of course, benefit greatly with the DS Tracks, as 1:1 US tracks are "Live", requiring tight track tension. As to DRAGON starting to include DS Tracks in some of their latest kits instead of the single link Magic Tracks, it comes down to saving THEM money. Two runs of DS Tracks per kit cost a lot less than molding individual links. My own take? For a few dollars more, DRAGON COULD include a choice between DS Tracks or Magic Tracks. I think that the CHEAPEST way to solve the problem would be to SLIDE MOLD "LINK AND LENGTH" Tracks as TAMIYA does with their Hetzer, Armored UE Carrier, Matilda, IS-2 and ISU-152. BRONCO did the same with their British and US M22 Locust kits. RIICH has followed suit with their fantastic little British and Commonwealth Universal Carrier... Just my opinion, but I think that all of these kits have very nice natural-looking track sag as well...

Lots of discussion about DS and Magic Tracks. I personally only like the DS trcks when the vehicle has a live track system (no sag in the track) like on most modern tanks and shermans.

While indivdual track links look much better they do take time.

I liked the Dragon Smart kit line as they included stuff like indvidual track links, and photo etch. would be nice if they included both so the modeler could chouse.

Regards,

Rod

Have you ordered it yet, Matt?

HI All,
Whats the differences in this kit from their previous three in one kit? Is this a smart kit based on that one?
Matty

I agree. The magic tracks are really not that tough when you have a system worked out, and they look so much better than any one piece tracks DS or vinyl.

I have a track jig from Dragon's Pz. IV E kit. I can fly through tracks. I really am looking forward to getting hold of this kit, as I am drifting further and further down the African Campaign river. What I'm not seeing is a metal barrel. It looks as though Dragon has trimmed some of the fat off of its panzer kits.