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What vehicle was used to refuel Soviet tanks?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 06:13 PM UTC
I've been away from the hobby for years and Tamiya's T-55 lured me back with thoughts of doing a diorama showing a tank crew skulking around while refueling their chariot and I hit a wall on information a couple years ago and just never got around to resuming my search until now.

I've searched around here trying to find if this has been asked before and I may be using incorrect terminology or just missing the forest for the trees but what type of vehicle was used for field refueling of Soviet cold war era tanks?
Or was there any provision for field refueling? I've read that the Soviet war machine didn't get nearly as much hands on training/practice as western militaries but surely they must have had some equipment for fueling tanks during an attack?

Was there a standard method to setting up a fuel dump or would a truck just go out to the tanks and start pumping?

Thanks all!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 07:18 PM UTC
My guess is

A simple truck full of 20l Jerrycans
Four huge and strong russian conscripts

After all there must be a place to use all the big conscripts and tanks and apc/ifv are not...

:)

Well more somethink like the

ATZ-4-131 Fuel-Bowser (tanker-truck)

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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 07:48 PM UTC
you may find a 1/72 sample here:

http://www.super-hobby.nl/products/ATZ-4-131-Fuel-Bowser.html
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Posted: Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 04:52 AM UTC
Here are real examples:

1) ATZ-3-157 refueller:



2) ATZ-4-131 You mentioned:

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Posted: Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 11:39 AM UTC
Ah, I suspect it was incorrect terminology that was getting me sidetracked, thank you gents, this will give me a start on things.
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Posted: Thursday, May 30, 2013 - 04:00 PM UTC
Here is one more....

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EdCraft
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Posted: Friday, May 31, 2013 - 05:06 AM UTC
This last image shows East German tanks.
mmeier
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Posted: Friday, May 31, 2013 - 06:26 AM UTC
In that case it might be a IFA G5
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Posted: Friday, May 31, 2013 - 02:48 PM UTC
More options are good, was there a fuel bowser made on the Gaz-66 truck, or would that have been too low in carrying capacity to be worth while?
I have seen photos of a tank body on the Gaz in both fire fighting paint and military scheme, but I'm not sure whether it was just for use in fighting fires or whether it would have been used for refueling.

I've got an Eastern Express Gaz-66 I've been looking for an excuse to build and if I've got to scratchbuild a tank body anyhow it could be a fun little project.
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Posted: Saturday, June 01, 2013 - 04:28 AM UTC
No, East German picture clearly shows refueller on Soviet "Ural" truck chassis.

And yes - there were the TZ-2-66 refueller on GAZ-66 truck chassis (for army), and TZ-2-66D refueller on GAZ-66B truck chassis (for airborne troops) used in the USSR.

Here is TZ-2-66D:

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Posted: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 02:43 AM UTC

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OMG, what a fun day 2 A-10 would have if they happen to fly over those in a conflict ;-)

ps: I know there's an expression that would work much better that fun day, but being non-English born, I'm not certain if field day something should be there, please correct me so I know in the future

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This last image shows East German tanks.




Eduard, how do you know this? All I see are T-72, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm simply curious
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DerGeist
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Posted: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 03:46 AM UTC

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Eduard, how do you know this? All I see are T-72, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm simply curious




They're Czech or Polish built T-55's. The NVA roundel on the turret points to their belonging to the East Germans.



Erik
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 06:30 AM UTC
I found this one a while back and would love to add it to my collection, modern Russian Ural 4320 based tactical refueler... Now if only my $150 kit list was just a little shorter.

OMF-3504 1/35 URAL-4320 ATs-5.5 Soviet Army refueller model kit

ATs-5.5 refueller in Intended for different vehicles fuelling. This show exellent cross country capability, and can be available with additional wheeled tank trailer. Mounted on URAL-4320 track chassis the special equipment provide pressure fuelling and incorporates fuel tank, fuel pump, fine fuel filter fuel flow counter, pipes with distribution valves, hoses with nozzles and fire prevention system. Driver's cabin possesses variety of instruments and a radio station. The ATs-5.5 is served by Russian Armed Forces and post Soviet states armies.



Available from aviapress... http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?OMF-3504
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