Does all the Tiger I use the same tank gun?what is the name of that tank gun and is it powerful?for doing with the kit tank gun,i can only detail the muzzle by PE,what else i can do to make it perfect?
thanks
tim lo

Timlo,
All Tiger I's use the same gun. It was called the KwK 36 L/56 and was at its introduction the most powerfull tankgun in the world.
If you're contenct with the shape and have attache the PE part, I'd say it is okay. I personally have installed a cJordio Rubio barrel on my own Tiger 1.
Hope this helps.

No, they didn't have the same gun, it depends on which type you are building. I do not know the exact names, but it was one of the most powerfull tankguns in WW2. For detailing you can buy a Jordio Rubio barrel, which is perfectly round.

Golikell, your right about the gun although there is a difference: some guns had a larger muzzle break then others i believe that was introduced at the end of the war.

The Tiger 1's do have only one type of gun (do not count the prototypes, one of which has a 75 mm gun). If you can point me to details about the "other" guns, I'm happy to say I wasd wrong, but so far I only found references to this one gun!*edit I could not find references about a different type of muzzle brake*

The gun is the same for all tiger the L/56 88. The only difference is the muzzle brake. i think the later one is smaller.

The Tiger 1 only used one type of gun during manufacture. However the guns of the late tigers had a smaller type of muzzle break. I dont have the reference to hand but this is detailed in the AJ Press series of book on the tig and in Achtung Panzer 6 on the Tiger there are sketches of the different muzzle breaks used.

Lee

I found a couple of web sites that might help you out. The second one has some great photos. There is one taken in North Africa with the crew sitting around outside of their tank and a local walking by leading a camel. A good possibility for a diorama. I hope these help.

http://www.wwiitech.net
http://www.tiger-tank.com

I'm not certain if the person inquiring is asking about the muzzle Break type or barrel length.
And if that is the case. OKay, I'm sure you folks would know more about that than I would. BUT in someone saying that the Tiger Tank had anything Smaller than a 88mm Main Gun is ludicrous. You folks need to go back and check your history. The Tiger Tank had the most deadlist Gun in the European Front. Until it met up with the later produced Russian Tanks.
But over all and History will prove it out and you can call it the L56 OR WHAT EVER, But the facts are simple the Germans used one gun and One gun only on it's Armor and as Anti-Air craft Guns And that was the venerable 88mm.So get your facts straight and go back and read your history foilks. Scarey !!

Don't get wrong here, but if you had read your history you should know that one prototype VK 4501(H) H2 was initialy equipped with an 75mm KwK 42 L/70 (Rheinmetall). That made it never into production for the Tiger but was later seen on the Panther Ausf D1 and Ausf A.

Yeah I guess I did over react abit. I apologize, It just concerns me when it appear that people don't know enough about the past. And go off thinking they don't need to know about it. Anyway. Your right about the Prototype version. Sorry. The Tiger was a great Tank. Too bad Germany did not produce it better. and sooner, Or perhaps it's a good thing they did'nt LOL . I have always had a thing for the Tiger Tank, as well as the ME-262. To me they are what Could Have made Germany Even Greater and an advanced military. which could have changed history much sooner than they did.

Actually just to add a little to the debate. The Panther's 75mm L/70 is a very potent weapon, and it's not in anyway inferior to the Tiger I's 88 L/56. And just german side, I would definitely vote the 88 L/71 as used on the King Tiger, Ferdinand, ELefant, Hornisse as THE definitive Anti-Tank gun of the Wehrmacht. 128mm on the Jagdtiger might sounded bigger/powerful (it is), but with the slow rate of fire, it's not really something that I would like to have.

By the way, the Flak18/36 is L/56, but the Flak 41 is actually L/74, Flak 42 is L/80

So although they are of the same caliber, they are different guns them 88s. Even the Flak 18/36 which is L/56 is slightly longer than the KwK 36 L/56. The Flak 18/36 had a rifling of 4.1m, whilst the kwK36 had one of 4.03m. so not exactly the same gun/.

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Yeah I guess I did over react abit. I apologize, It just concerns me when it appear that people don't know enough about the past. And go off thinking they don't need to know about it. Anyway. Your right about the Prototype version. Sorry. The Tiger was a great Tank. Too bad Germany did not produce it better. and sooner, Or perhaps it's a good thing they did'nt LOL . I have always had a thing for the Tiger Tank, as well as the ME-262. To me they are what Could Have made Germany Even Greater and an advanced military. which could have changed history much sooner than they did.

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Were are learning every day especially here on Armorama. That's the fun of it, isn't it. But it's good for the discussion sometimes to have some arguments . I agree with you that Germany was and is one of the best weapons manufactures (Leopard 2 A5/A6, Fennek reconnaissance vehicle) and think we should be glad the couldn't build more in WW2. Although we had more vehicles to model by now if the had!!

SS-74 And APBullet:
Thanks Guys, I tend to get carried away sometimes with my view points. In alot of ways I admire the German Soldier and Airmen of WW-2, Though not the fanatics. But more the ones who fough not so much for the Nazi Idelogy, because I am pretty certain that they probably could have cared less for that more than they did for thier comrades and thier country. And when given the right time and place and equipment they fought as soldiers and airmen should and do. They were courageous. Some were even honorable, But most found themselves in a position where it was do or die. Because they had no other choice. And for that I have aslways felt a sense of grief and loss for what they had to go thru, Where as the men of the Allied forces had alot more freedom, Better Officers and a more honorable reason to be there fighting. We did not have as many cool and awesome weapons as the Germans did. But we manged to be able to use them alot more effectively. Even though we payed a very high price for our efforts. At the hands of both the Luftwaffe and the ground forces of the German Army. So for that I am thankful that we have the chance to build models of those weapons. As both a reminder of the folks who fought in them and thier sacrifces. NOT to mention they are just palin Cool and Fun to build !! LOL
So okay I'm done rambling.

does it represent some meaning of KWK L56 88? L56 mean what?and so as KWK.
i do not want to buy metal barrel cause it is not easy to clean up,what can i do besides adding PE to detail and make it more realistic?
thanks

where can i get a Jordio Rubio barrel for my tiger and other tanks,
do they have a web site

My God, I have never seen so much discussion complicating a simple question.
"Does all the Tiger I use the same tank gun?"
I think that sgt Timlo is refering to the model he is building, not the prototype
not experimantal ones, not one off products models, but the KIT.

He is simply asking if he has done enough to improve the KIT barrel.

I know the question was simple, but we got a little carried away. I't was a nice discussion though.
Timlo as for your question were KwK 36 L/56 88 stands for:
KwK = i don't know (mayby someone can tell me)
36 = geraet > equipment
L/56 = lenght of barrel in calibers (which is 4.93 meters)
88 = barrel diameter in millimeters

to further elaborate. Caliber is the length of the gun in relation to the barrel diameter. hence 88 L/56 is 88mm x 56 = 4928mm, which is approximately 4.93m. this is handy when you wanna check if a kit gun barrel is at least to the right length or not. As the famed DML Pz III Ausf J 50mm L/60 length which turned out to be too short, and the Judio too long.

KwK?? Simple: Kampf wagen Kanone

Poor TAZZ. Here is a simple answer to your question. There are also 2 other companies that make barrells for Tiger 1's. Check out Squadron shop or Great Models and use their search engine asking for barrels. You should be able to pick up a CMK or Barrel Depot version for around $8