Hi folks,

Before these walk a bout's go live can you confirm the Vehicle ID of these soft skins? Your starter for 10 is:

One - CMP 15cwt 4 x 2 GS?



Two - Vauxhall? WW1 Staff Car



Three - What type of Tractor is this?



Four - Renault Pick Up?



Five - Unknown Lorry?



Many thanks

Al

The Renault pickup reminds me of "Type AD" model :



The aircraft tug looks like a Clarktor 6 :



and I guess the truck in the last picture is a Czech-built Praga RN :



H.P.

No1 is ,a Ford 15cwt 4x4 you can see the front dif

Thanks Henry, very helpful.

Thanks David, I can never figure out if they are 4 x 2 or 4 x 4. First time I've come across a 15cwt with a No 13 Cab and the steel body.

Cheers

Al

You're welcome Alan. I've found another Renault pickup picture that looks a bit closer (even though the upper part of the cab is different). This one is a 1937 ADV 1 :



On a side note, Renault models nomenclature for the 30's and 40's is rather complex (http://renaultconcepts.online.fr/gamme/codes-aaa.htm )


H.P.

This one is indeed a Vauxhall D-type Army Staff Car (1914-18)

http://www.mamut.net/svenskavauxhallregis/subdet18.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_D-Type

HTH

H.P.

The more I look at the Renault picture, the more I believe there's something wrong with the cab...The doors are not "suicide doors" like those usually fitted to other similar Renault light trucks, and the roof profile doesn't match any period pics I've seen...I wonder if this one is in fact a "scratchbuilt" pickup cab

H.P.

Hi Henri,

Thanks for the all the info, you're a star.

The story as told to me was that the Renault was requisitioned by the Germans and liberated by the Allies. It's an original as far as I know and looks it judging by the wear and tear.

Here's a offside view or nearside view in France lol.



Cheers

Al

I've managed to find a front view of this very same vehicle "La Bella Aurona" (on display at the 2011 War & Peace show) but I'm still stuck with it

H.P.

Hi Henri,

Renault Pick up will do I think?

Cheers

Al

I guess so

H.P.

For any vehicle that's nominally rear wheel drive, if you see a front differential, it's a 4x4. 4x2 vehicles will have a plain axle/transferse suspension support in front.

There are very few to no front wheel drive vehicles in WW II, so anything you see with a front differential can be assumed to be 4x4.

Paul

Hi Paul,

Many thanks. Being a complete non mechanical person I though it high time I broadened my understanding and whilst reading up on differentials I came across this piece of film that is not only fun but explains things in a way even I could understand.

http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/a-brilliant-explanation-of-how-a-cars-differential-works-1450429/

Classic piece of 1930s film instruction.

Cheers

Al

That's a really good instructional video, but we'll all take note of how much safety equipment all of the daredeveils are wearing doing their stunt driving. Which is to say, "None!".

And just to add to your new mechanical knowledge further:

At the end of the video they show the differential in it's howinginthe car and the cover of the differential goes onlast. That style of differential colver, where the parts are in a housing and a round cover is added last, is called a "banjo" differential, as the round cover and long wheel shaft cover resemble a banjo.

If you can imagine the single housing shown in the movie, with two wheel shafts contained in one housing but change th ehousing so that all it is split vertically, fore & aft with the differential parts and one wheel shaft in one side adn just a wheel shaft and it's connecting differential gear on the other side, and to build the rear end you bolt the two halves together along that vertical joint, this is called a "split differential".

The banjo and split differential styles are also identification features for various vehicles that may otherwise look the same. Most manufacturers used one style of differential on all their vehicles, although, like everything else, this is not a hard & fast rule. For example, Chev CMPS usually used the Banjo differential and Ford CMPs usually had the split type, but there are cases where production issues forces each company to use the other company's differentials in their vehicles.

Here you can see Chev & Ford CMPS with their normal differential styles.

http://www.o5m6.de/chevy_c60l.html

Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks again. Good explanation, I loved the film though, it's a real classic.

It's a wonder we survived at all !!

Just spent a few hours sorting out various build storage boxes, so I can get on and build a few kits.

It's been a very slow year and I'd kinda lost the plot, but my visit to Duxford fed the imagination and a negotiation with SWMBO as to how much time I really need to spend on the allotment means that hopefully I can reclaim a bit of build time and crack on with a few projects.

Cheers

Al